Does Canelo get a pass like Ward bringing down a Lineal LHW to 168?

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  • MulaKO
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    #31
    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
    Ward and Canelo never tooted their horns that they were the best at LHW having fought LHWs.

    Do realize Beterbiev can't make 168 is my point. So anything above 168, considering that Ward has always been bigger than Canelo, doesn't Canelo get a pass for the theoretical standard? If Canelo fights BEterbiev at a catchweight is that a better fight than Ward vs Dawson?

    So why didn’t you just say so instead of an essay
    Why the need to compare your king to anybody
    This just makes you sound like those GGG nuthuggers who always need to draw in someone else to try and reach their point

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      #32
      Originally posted by MulaKO
      So why didn’t he fight when he had a belt Frankie
      No double standards there
      And please , don’t give me another essay to read just to state the obvious
      the name is Frank, not Frankie.

      Why didn't Ward fight Beterbiev or Stevenson. Ward had to fight KOvalev TWICE to prove what? Bhop fought the Krusher at 49 years of age and beat 5 year reigning CHamp Shumenov. I would think that given such circumstances with Hops vs Krusher, why didn't Ward bet on Stevenson's old age or with Beterbiev? Is it because Roc Nation couldn't or because HBO fell off that Team Ward were insecure in securing a platform?

      Lots of questions, but Ward retired early. That can only be interpreted as benefit of doubt to have done it all right? NOt ducking?

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        #33
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        So why didn’t you just say so instead of an essay
        Why the need to compare your king to anybody
        This just makes you sound like those GGG nuthuggers who always need to draw in someone else to try and reach their point
        how do I sound like ''GGG Nuthuggers'' when Canelo fans get fights at multiple classes at the very least?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
          the name is Frank, not Frankie.

          Why didn't Ward fight Beterbiev or Stevenson. Ward had to fight KOvalev TWICE to prove what? Bhop fought the Krusher at 49 years of age and beat 5 year reigning CHamp Shumenov. I would think that given such circumstances with Hops vs Krusher, why didn't Ward bet on Stevenson's old age or with Beterbiev? Is it because Roc Nation couldn't or because HBO fell off that Team Ward were insecure in securing a platform?

          Lots of questions, but Ward retired early. That can only be interpreted as benefit of doubt to have done it all right? NOt ducking?

          Could have sworn it was Frankie , sorry
          But why all the need to bring up this chit for Canelo
          Ward retired cause of Beterbiev imo
          I think Ward was worried of both guys , honestly
          So how will you justify when Canelo decides to move back up
          Will he be looking for the weakest , the oldest or ......

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            #35
            Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
            how do I sound like ''GGG Nuthuggers'' when Canelo fans get fights at multiple classes at the very least?

            Cause it’s a very well known fact that GGG fans have to always drag others into their argument to reach their point
            You should know that , I’ve seen you oust a few out

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              #36
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              Could have sworn it was Frankie , sorry
              But why all the need to bring up this chit for Canelo
              Ward retired cause of Beterbiev imo
              I think Ward was worried of both guys , honestly
              So how will you justify when Canelo decides to move back up
              Will he be looking for the weakest , the oldest or ......
              the current state of boxing is really really messed up. For fighters having trouble to make weight at 168 as is and hitting 30years of age, that without proper training NOW, void in team mgmt, sparring, foods, you best believe many fighters may move up. That includes many classes. If this happens, it makes a shift.

              the real question is, what's the maximum grace period for Canelo vs BEterbiev? might as well say Bivol vs BEterbiev too, what's the max grace period? Can it be said Bivol is making Beterbiev to get ''old'' despite the fact that Bivol's been a 175 Champ since when?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                the current state of boxing is really really messed up. For fighters having trouble to make weight at 168 as is and hitting 30years of age, that without proper training NOW, void in team mgmt, sparring, foods, you best believe many fighters may move up. That includes many classes. If this happens, it makes a shift.

                the real question is, what's the maximum grace period for Canelo vs BEterbiev? might as well say Bivol vs BEterbiev too, what's the max grace period? Can it be said Bivol is making Beterbiev to get ''old'' despite the fact that Bivol's been a 175 Champ since when?

                Yes , I can see Bivol holding out , but for how long
                There is talk of Bivol vs Beterbiev in Russia

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MulaKO
                  Yes , I can see Bivol holding out , but for how long
                  There is talk of Bivol vs Beterbiev in Russia
                  entertain the idea. What's the maximum grace periods for the questions I asked. You're acknowledging theoretical or rumors for Bivol vs BEterbiev, but that might not happen, just like the neutral narrative for a date of Canelo vs Beterbiev.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                    entertain the idea. What's the maximum grace periods for the questions I asked. You're acknowledging theoretical or rumors for Bivol vs BEterbiev, but that might not happen, just like the neutral narrative for a date of Canelo vs Beterbiev.

                    As soon as possible
                    What’s your take , when Bivol and Beterbiev have beaten the chit out of each other
                    Or when Bivol hits the bottle
                    Or when Beterbiev looks bad

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MulaKO
                      As soon as possible
                      What’s your take , when Bivol and Beterbiev have beaten the chit out of each other
                      Or when Bivol hits the bottle
                      Or when Beterbiev looks bad
                      I'll tell you this bro. remember it.

                      I enjoy watching the Gvozdyk vs Beterbiev bout. It's a classic between Euros at LHW. HOWEVER, I was VERY disappointed in Gvozdyk's accuracy in that fight. Just utter swinging and missing he looked amateur. Given the style I saw, it's almost as if Gvozdyk was too lanky for Beterbiev even though he doesn't look it. Gvozdyk looked stiff, and lacked power. I did like how Gvozdyk had a strategy to consistently jab Beterbiev to the body, and Beterbiev did get clipped in that fight that had him stagger for a couple of seconds.

                      NOW, here's how I gauge and why I want Canelo vs Beterbiev. Canelo HITS HARDER than Gvozdyk. Canelo's upper torso is stronger and more athletic than Gvozdyk's. In fact Canelo is like a mini Beterbiev, but faster because of style and weight. That's a good combination to beat Beterbiev.

                      I foresee Canelo also hitting Beterbiev's body if the theory is that Euro's don't like to be hit on the body. There might be some truth in that with their fundamentals in defense vs the west where Soviets are more head hunters than focusing on protecting their bodies.

                      But yeah, I think Gvozdyk's style wasn't good against Beterbiev as well as lacking power.

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