Did GGG beat better MIDDLEWEIGHTS than B-Hop.

[Mammoth]

Hopkins had the better win at 160 in regard to guys like Tito still being an elite fighter even at that weight.

In terms of who beat the better middleweights more consistently, you probably have to give it to GGG. He should have at least one W over Canelo too.

But the best official GGG wins, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko, could be scored against Golovkin

[Shadoww702]

If GGG got that Canelo W deservedly in at least on of his fights with him, there wouldn't be much doubt here. Since those were robberies, I'd say yes.

HAHA Canelo in his 2nd fight at MW took the boogeyman who never fought pro at any other weight to a draw and then beat him in his 3rd fight at MW.

This clown doesn't even know what a robbery is? Close fights can't be robberies...

[Shadoww702]

But the best official GGG wins, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko, could be scored against Golovkin

This is tru! Maybe their fans should SCREAM robbery like GGGTards do??? two years later and GGG fans still butt hurt.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

But the best official GGG wins, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko, could be scored against Golovkin

Yeah fair point, I did have him beating both Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. I had them both 114-113 though so I couldn’t have argued if it went the other way.

Did you have either of them winning?

[Shadoww702]

True that. GGG was screwed by the judges in that first fight, no doubt. Counting that as a win, the next question is...who was Hops best MW win? Tito whose best MW win was over Joppy...who had no good MW wins? And who would be favored...2017 Canelo or the MW version of Tito? Canelo. 2016 Jacobs or MW Tito? Jacobs. 2019 Deravyanchenko or MW Tito? Mr. D. Hops had more worn out, end of career names (DLH coming off what should have been a loss vs Sturm, JDJ coming off a loss to Abdullah Ramadan, Holmes who had distinguished himself by losing to Hasim Cherifi.....)
Easy vote here. It doesn't mean GGG beats Hopkins ( I believe he would) but GGG's best win/screw job was better than Hopkins best MW win.

You think GGG would beat Hopkins??? Man pass that joint....

[xxlefthookxx]

You think GGG would beat Hopkins??? Man pass that joint....

Why wouldn't he beat Hopkins? Because Hops beat a list of little guys and nobodies? (similar to most of G's wins).
GGG is not like anyone that Hops fought. And vice versa. I didn't say it would be easy, but if Hops came forward he would be in harm's way. If he tried to move, GGG could cut off the ring. Does Hops struggle with Jacobs, Deravyanchenko and Canelo? Absolutely. Does G struggle with any of Hopkins MW opponents? Probably not.

[just the facts]

GGG. His biggest scalps, Canelo, Jacobs, and Derevyanchenko would beat any MW that Hopkins beat. Joppy? Holmes? Too-small Trinidad? They both had their share of weak offerings (Vanes, Monroe, Squirrel, JDJ) but I believe GGG's top wins (or bogus draw) is better than Hopkins.

If you're going to count Canelo as a win, you have to count Derv as a loss.

Pretty close. Can make a case for either.

[TonyGe]

Tito went in against Hopkins as a favorite which was ridiculous IMO then Golovkin would be favored over Hopkins.
I'd give him a great chance to beat Hopkins.

[xxlefthookxx]

If you're going to count Canelo as a win, you have to count Derv as a loss.

Pretty close. Can make a case for either.

Sure. But GGG's 'draw' with Canelo was a much clearer 'win' than his 'loss' to D.

[just the facts]

Sure. But GGG's 'draw' with Canelo was a much clearer 'win' than his 'loss' to D.

Same level. Kind of a who's the tallest midget argument though.