Why do people rate Mayweather higher than Pac when he never challenge himself at 160?

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I cannot for the life of me understand why people actually rate Floyd higher than Pacquiao when he did not even attempt to fight at 160. Meanwhile Pacquiao went through eight divisions.

He should have challenged himself by moving to 160.

Pac lost 8 times or so and was KTFO. His "8th" division was against a shot to shit Margarito at 150lb w/ rehydration clause.

Pac is a terrific fighter but he beat worse versions of Mosley, DLH, Hatton, and he lost straight up to Floyd despite being younger than Floyd.

Pac had many wars and while they are thrilling they also indicate limitation in ability. Meanwhile Floyd only had 2 close fights in his entire career.

Skill for skill and pound for pound Floyd is the superior fighter. Not to mention the PED cloud surrounding Manny who refused drug testing from 2009-2015.

Nonetheless being upset about arbitrary ranking means little...both are ATGs

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Eh, I don't think Mayweather needed to go to 160 to be ranked higher than Pac.

For me, the fact that he never fought outside of America, and not even outside of Las Vegas (with sympathetic judges) for the last decade of his career, hurts him to me.

The fact that he didn't beat great fighters in their primes after Diego Corrales & Castillo to me hurts him to me.

All the retirements didn't help.

To me, the fact that Pacquaio always was on the road fighting in others
countries (and getting robbed by Joe Horn & Timothy Bradley), while trekking through 8 divisions, and continuing to beat highly ranked champions at 40 years old pushed him over the top of Floyd to me.

Jeff Horn wasnt a robbery. Maybe Pac had a bad night but that was no robbery

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What are you even talking about? "Money" Mayweather is a natural 140 fighter who just didn't cut weight. Why would Floyd ever need to go 20 pounds and 3 divisions above his natural weight to be compared to Pacquiao. Pacquiao fought a natural 147 pound Margarito at 154 to just get that paper title at 154. Im sorry but you can have your opinion on who is greater but talking about Floyd not moving up to 160 and fight Jermain Taylor in 2015 to become a paper champion at middleweight is not a valid reason just because Pacquiao did that at 154. Really who would even care if Floyd beat a shot Jermain Taylor?

Pac fought Margs at 150 w/ a rehydration clause...for the 154lb title.

Was a joke XD especially considering Margs was completely shot then

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- Wins against elite fighters in their prime

- Only 8 weight champ in history.

- Only fighter to hold a world title in 4 different decades.

- 5 division lineal champion

You can make a reasonable argument for both IMO. Personally I have Floyd slightly higher but I can understand if somebody has Manny higher than Floyd.

Your account name is RJJ 1994-2002 = GOAT. That says enough about you as a "fan".

Both RJJ and Pac are suspected PED cheats. Roy was literally caught once and was also linked to BALCO while Manny ducked drug tests from 2009-2015.

Those are pretty significant factors to consider when rating a boxer especially when both RJJ and Manny won their fights using physical attributes.

RJJ with lightning speed and power and Manny with relentless stamina and lightning speed. Most people fatigue but these 2 were juiced to the gills which is why neither wanted drug testing and both became ordinary once they stopped using

[JK1700]

Soon we are legit going to see people saying why doesn’t Mayweather fight Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua or go to the UFC and fight Jon Jones. You haters are so desperate to see this man take a loss. He retired undefeated. 50-0 and embarrassed all your favourite fighters and made it look absolutely easy. I know you are butt hurt but it is what it is. Get over it!

[hugh grant]

Dlh said Pac was the best overall. Pac s had greater achievements than fkoyd. Similar to bh is greater than unbeaten jc. Jcs unbeaten record won't make him greater than bh, beating bh himself won't make jc greater. And the Same applies to floyd.
Especially since Pac has titles in 8 divisions as well as beat common opponents more dominant or more times.

BH didn't have to even win titles in 3 more divisions than jc did to be greater, like pac has compared to floyd. Neither did bh have to beat common opponents more dominant. JC travelling abroad to beat bh didn't even make JC greater?

So Pac s overachieved. It's a no brainer.
Don't make allowances for floyd now, don't make excuses for floyd. It's one rule for floyd and another for everyone else!. Don't you think we can see it? Don't play that game

[The D3vil]

Jeff Horn wasnt a robbery. Maybe Pac had a bad night but that was no robbery

There's no way in hell that anybody who's not Australian or a Floyd fan thinks that Joe Horn beat Manny Pacquaio. Zero.

All he did was fight dirty and rough Pac up physically, but he didn't land the more effective punches. No way.

[KingOfGlory]

There's no reason for a fighter to have to go up in weight his entire career. It's not like you continue to grow in your 30s and 40s.

And catchweight fights will always be a joke.

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Pac fought Margs at 150 w/ a rehydration clause...for the 154lb title.

Was a joke XD especially considering Margs was completely shot then

Agreed also it was a vacant title . WBC just wanted that prime manny sanctioning fee . They pretty much gave him that title . All that aside that fight was absolutely brutal for both men . That fight took alot out of manny . It was proof that 154 was past his ceiling weight wise . I mean at the time he could have def picked up a belt or two imo vs the likes of bundradge and dzyndzurek , but he was just too small to sustain a long run at that weight IMO . That was a purely for the record books .

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I cannot for the life of me understand why people actually rate Floyd higher than Pacquiao when he did not even attempt to fight at 160. Meanwhile Pacquiao went through eight divisions.

He should have challenged himself by moving to 160.

It’s because like it or not floyd dominated his fights and was never ktfo like pac ala Marquez