You ever think you underrated somebody?

[kafkod]

Cleverly beat a solid who's who, Karo Murat, Iron Djib, Karpency, Braehmer and Krasniqi along with Bellew of course. I don't even think Cleverly is his best win. That'd probably be Makabu. Masternak isn't far off both either. He's not elite but he was a very good fighter and worthy champ.

That's exactly how I would describe Bellew.

[therealpugilist]

Kinda thinking that while I rewatch Bellew stop Makabu......

miguel cotto

on his way up thought he was a decent fighter, nothing special.....picked against him vs Mosley, Cotto he proved me wrong. Thought he'd get by Margarito(boxing skills) and Pacqaio(size and power)

never saw him as a threat to mayweather.....also never thought hed win titles in 4 divisions and carve out a hall of fame resume

really earned my respect and was a very well rounded yet exciting fighter

[Boxing Goat]

Cleverly beat a solid who's who, Karo Murat, Iron Djib, Karpency, Braehmer and Krasniqi along with Bellew of course. I don't even think Cleverly is his best win. That'd probably be Makabu. Masternak isn't far off both either. He's not elite but he was a very good fighter and worthy champ.

Clev beat a who's who? Braemer was a decent win but nobody else there was worth a fart because they were old and or washed up. Cleverly was obliterated as soon as he fought an elite in the division. Bellew is far from underrated.

[Boxing Goat]

That was a mistake on my part, Bellew never fought at 168. I meant 175, which is the weight he fought Stevenson at.

I probably made that mistake because I still remember Stevenson as a top contender at 168, demanding his mandatory shot at Carl Froch and sending offers to Andre Ward.

I also still remember Bellew as a 3 time British amateur HW champion, nicknamed "The Bomber" because he won most of his fights by KO.

And that right there is a clue as to why Stevenson vs Bellew at 200lb would have been a totally different fight than the one we saw at 175.

Stevenson was a big SMW who moved up to 175. Bellew was a naturally bigger man than Stevenson, and never fought below 175 in his life, amateur or pro. He was at CW for his first 12 pro fights before moving down to 175 to fight for the vacant Commonwealth title. He stayed at 175 because winning that title opened up opportunities for more big fights, and ended up draining himself too badly to make the most of the opportunities he was given.

They were approximately the same size and Stevenson dominated when they did fight. If given a guess, probability would definitely be in favor of a repeat by Stevenson regardless of the weight.

[BoloShot]

Clev beat a who's who? Braemer was a decent win but nobody else there was worth a fart because they were old and or washed up. Cleverly was obliterated as soon as he fought an elite in the division. Bellew is far from underrated.

Murat was 22-0, Djib 23-1, Krasniqi 39-2 and Braehmer 48-2 (by the way he was the oldest of the lot you ****ing idiot). The rest were in their respective primes you mongoloid. Shut the hell up if you don't have a clue in future

[Boxing Goat]

Murat was 22-0, Djib 23-1, Krasniqi 39-2 and Braehmer 48-2 (by the way he was the oldest of the lot you ****ing idiot). The rest were in their respective primes you mongoloid. Shut the hell up if you don't have a clue in future

All of them ****** and Cleverly ******. Get over it

[kafkod]

They were approximately the same size and Stevenson dominated when they did fight. If given a guess, probability would definitely be in favor of a repeat by Stevenson regardless of the weight.

They were approximately the same size when they fought because Bellew had drained himself down to Stevenson's size to make the 175 limit.

You think the outcome would be the same same whatever weight they fought at because you don't understand how important weight can be in determining the outcome of a fight.

Manny Pacquiao struggled to make 112 and got KTFO on 3 rounds by Rustico Torrecampo and Boonsai Sangsurat. After that, Manny gave up trying to make 112 and moved up 122 to win his second divisional world title.

Do you think Torrecampo and Sangsurat would probably have KO'd Manny at 122lbs, or 126, or any of the other weights that Manny won titles at after getting KTFO by them at 112?

[Stuntman Mike]

Bellew got badly KTFO by Stevenson and as a result was not really unfairly underrated.

Besides that, he gave Usyk very little trouble and really only beat a long past it David Haye.

He gave usyk little trouble?
He schooled usyk and made him look ****** at times with hard counters
Usyk knew he was in a tough hard fight

But i guess since you have a 9 inch schlong,a quarter a million pound house and 8 vehicles all at the humble age of 40 years old ill have to take your word for it

[Froch_uppercut]

Yeah man, that Tyson Fury dude. I only agreed to the fight because he was a name and I thought he was 400lbs and washed up.

Yours,

D.Wilder.

[Boxing Goat]

He gave usyk little trouble?
He schooled usyk and made him look ****** at times with hard counters
Usyk knew he was in a tough hard fight

But i guess since you have a 9 inch schlong,a quarter a million pound house and 8 vehicles all at the humble age of 40 years old ill have to take your word for it

You took those things straight to heart, huh.
I'm flattered. That was all 100% true, though.

You don't need to take my word for anything as I couldn't care less either way.

On topic - Bellew got out worked and knocked out ugly AF!

Here, just for you:

•According to Compubox,
Usyk landed 112 of 424 punches (26,4 percent), and Bellew connected on 61 of 268 (22,8 percent).

Yeah, that was a real schooling alright