Comments Thread For: Is Carl Froch Still Obsessed With Joe Calzaghe?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I would've favored Joe head to head in 08. That said, Froch went on to have the greater career.

Hopefully Hearn can pull both out of retirement, I'd love to see Froch handle business one last time.

GTFOH...😂😂

Calzaghe was the undisputed #1 at 168. He held every title available at the weight including the lineal title during his career. Also holds the record number of defences (20) at the weight. Also went up to 175 and beat B-Hop for the Ring 175 title and he actually beat a Prime Kessler.

Froch was never #1 at 168 that was Ward another guy Froch is pathetically bitter about. He never beat a fighter as good as Prime Kessler or even 43 YO Hopkins.

Calzaghe has greater accomplishments, wins, longevity etc. The only thing even comparable is resume.

And no... nobody wants to see two Middle Aged men come out of retirement.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Calzaghe would have given Froch a boxing lesson. Calzaghe had no issues with Kessler i can't see Froch posing many problems for him.

The Kessler fights tell us all we need to know...

Calzaghe>Kessler>Froch.

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That’s why I did not mention those names. But what has that got to with what I said about Froch?

I never said who would win, I was talking about willingness to face the best at their best. Win or lose froch did that.

[lion33lit]

Greatest welsh fighter for decades without a doubt. I cannot put him over the great Jimmy Wilde though. His best win was clearly over an in his prime Kessler, which was a ******* of a fight and one that I did not think he was going to win. He turned it up in the late rounds, hurt Kessler to the body, and simply overwhelmed him. I never thought that much of Lacy, to be honest I never understood why so many think that was an overly special win. I never really saw any special championship talent in Lacy.....just an over muscular body, reminded me a lot of Bruce Seldon with a chin.
I do however believe calzaghe MAY have beaten eubank in his prime but after the Watson fight, not before

Totally agree with everything you've said including your prior posts. I never understood the facination with Lacy and his plodding hooking style demeanor. I mean, I understood it in all its one dimensional glory, but I knew he was far from complete. I always compared him to the closest thing that he could & should emulate - as best he can - which wasTyson. But to me Lacy always came up woefully short, mainly because his footwork wasn't up to par, and again he mostly threw hooks.

To me, Froch was the complete robot! I say that mostly with admiration in my statement. He threw telegraphic punches from miles away, but somehow 'connected' (especially when it counted) from miles away - because he was sooo committed to the punch. Most importantly to me, his grand heart wasn't deficient in the "never give up" area.

With that said, Calzaghe "had a good engine," he never seemed to tire with his sick ridiculous punch output, with many of those so-called stinging "slaps" brutal enough to keep his opponents at bay. How would a stiff Froch (who needed to catch 2nd winds like most fighters) wouldve overcome the energenic Calzaghe is beyond me....

Froch was impressive, but he wouldve needed that perfect "conventional" night to upset the unconventional Calzaghe - kinda like what Barrera did to Hamed. It's not impossible if I want to "see" things from Frochs point of view...

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I like Calzhage, but there's a few names that should be on his resume that he avoided.

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GTFOH...😂😂

Calzaghe was the undisputed #1 at 168. He held every title available at the weight including the lineal title during his career. Also holds the record number of defences (20) at the weight. Also went up to 175 and beat B-Hop for the Ring 175 title and he actually beat a Prime Kessler.

Froch was never #1 at 168 that was Ward another guy Froch is pathetically bitter about. He never beat a fighter as good as Prime Kessler or even 43 YO Hopkins.

Calzaghe has greater accomplishments, wins, longevity etc. The only thing even comparable is resume.

And no... nobody wants to see two Middle Aged men come out of retirement.

Froch is bitter towards the world, and especially to people who beat him. Imagine if Dirrell didn't get robbed on the cards.

[Kannabis Kid]

Greatest welsh fighter for decades without a doubt. I cannot put him over the great Jimmy Wilde though. His best win was clearly over an in his prime Kessler, which was a ******* of a fight and one that I did not think he was going to win. He turned it up in the late rounds, hurt Kessler to the body, and simply overwhelmed him. I never thought that much of Lacy, to be honest I never understood why so many think that was an overly special win. I never really saw any special championship talent in Lacy.....just an over muscular body, reminded me a lot of Bruce Seldon with a chin.
I do however believe calzaghe MAY have beaten eubank in his prime but after the Watson fight, not before

Have to look into Jimmy Wilde because I honestly never heard of him. I don't rate Lacy high either but at the time of the Calzaghe fight he was an undefeated champion and was the first person to knockout Robin Reid even though that was a dirty fight but it was someone Joe struggled with so the fact that Calzaghe beat him up that bad I consider it a good win after that Lacy was never the same he really took a beatdown in that one his corner should've stopped that fight after the 10th round maybe even sooner he was getting tagged.

[Oregonian]

I never said who would win, I was talking about willingness to face the best at their best. Win or lose froch did that.

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What are you talking about? Calzaghe cleaned up the 168 division. Froch did not.
Frisch got beat by Kessler who had been beaten by Calzaghe and was undefeated when he fought Calzaghe.
Ward also beat Froch.

Who were the best fighters that Froch faced? He lost to the two top guys at 168.

[Oregonian]

I never said who would win, I was talking about willingness to face the best at their best. Win or lose froch did that.

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Khan is also willing to face anyone and he gets beat up anytime he steps up.
Would you say he’s great because of that?

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Khan is also willing to face anyone and he gets beat up anytime he steps up.
Would you say he’s great because of that?

no, khan is a clown but that's a terrible comparison. Khan has been knocked silky multiple times. Froch has 2 losses. He avenged one and the other was against one of the best fighters of this past era in ward. Froch has wins over Jermain Taylor, Kessler, dirrell, Abraham, Glen Johnson, an undefeated Bute and groves twice. That's better opposition than what Calzaghe faced. I never said froch was great, but I mentioned he had more of a willingness to face top competition than Joe. You literally have no point.