Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: We Want GGG at 160 - But We'll Make A lot of Noise at 168!

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  • Sweet Scions
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    #51
    Originally posted by PoserExposer
    Going down several weight classes has always proven fatal. Happened to Chris Bird after coming down from heavyweight, happened to Roy Jones after coming down to fight Tarver 2, happened to Tarver after filming the Rocky movie at heavyweight, happened to Chad Dawson at 168, happened to Fast Eddie Chambers against Mchunu. Not that Canelo can’t do it but for someone that muscular, it can’t help him but be a detriment, specially when he has shown poor conditioning in the final championship rounds. GGG will be far from his peak but Canelo won’t pose nearly a threat either as he was in the second fights. Fighting back down at 160 will be his demise.
    Interesting take. I'd expressed previously that I thought 168 for this fight was actually more in both guys' interests at this point; this is basically a more severe prediction of 160 now being to Canelo's detriment than I had made. I will say that I'm not at all on board with the wave of confident sentiment that Canelo stops him the third time...while clearly possible l think it's more likely he wins in a more definitive, less polarizing decision and GGG gets battered worse than before but not stopped. But hey what do I know, I haven't had a BS account since 2007

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    • LA_2_Vegas
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      #52
      Thought for sure Canelo would try to get the fight at 168.

      And for GGG's part - he's getting Canelo again in a situation where he comes out "flat". Is GGG gonna throw body shots this time or what?

      Seems like a breaking point is near

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #53
        what happened to all that " stand and fight like a Mexican " talk...?


        where is Golovkin's sombrero ?



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        • SweetPbfAli
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          #54
          Pretty sure Canelo has all the leverage here. Might be in his best interest to meet in the middle at 168. GGG has been begging for this fight since the last so this is the least he could do for a compromise.

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          • Truth Serum
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            #55
            Originally posted by steeve steel
            Food for thought: what if GGG boxed Canelo like Kovalev did? Would be another boring fight, but it might just work.
            Non Rehydration Clause Kov would have had enough in him to shutout Canelo.

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            • Truth Serum
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              #56
              Originally posted by Silver Spear
              Did you not watch the 2nd fight between them? You think jabs and 1 or 2 solid punches wins you the fight?
              When those jabs back you up and have you wobbled and hurt more than your own haymakers did to him, then sure, why not? IMO those jabs are considered effective AF!

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              • TJ highway
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                #57
                I find it very interesting to see if Canelo can make 160. I'm sure he could but he would be drained.

                Gilberto Ramírez (Zurdo) I thought moved to 175. Too tall to be fighting a 168 anymore. David Benavidez would scare me. Too young to realize the enormity of the fight (Canelo could get into trouble).

                Canelo never fights again under 160. 160 even is cutting it close.

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                • Silver Spear
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                  ? Perhaps something was lost in translation...but I felt GGG won fight 2 by the same margin he won fight 1 by...Canelo fought better in fight 2, but he still wasn't active enough imo.



                  I did, have watched it a number of times...the only way I think one can score it for Canelo is to not score a lot of GGG's work...he was just a lot more active than Canelo in most every round and outlanded him pretty heavily in quite a few rounds...Teddy Atlas had it 8-3-1, you still gotta score the jab man...especially when you have a great one like GGG has.
                  You bring up atlas score but ignore the countless trainers/ fighters that had it in favor of canelo. I score jabs sure but ggg was not throwing the same type of jabs like he threw in lemieux fight. Canelo landed the better power shots and backed ggg down most of the night.

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                  • Mindgames
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BoloShot
                    From what I've seen you're slightly overstimating. The average middleweight would weigh 170 on fight night. The likes of Danny Jacobs came in at 180 when at middleweight (still obscene, a ****ing cruiser at middleweight, what a joke).
                    Well Billy Joe Saunders comes in at 174,Golovkin at between 170 and 173,Lemiuex at 180 I think. Charlo at 176.And most successful supermiddles at around 178, im talking Calzaghe, Jones, Ward ect. So I don't think I'm far off. Basically Canelo is still a middle really, i dont think he'll have trouble making weight, he just didn't cut water for Kovalev.

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                    • BoloShot
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mindgames
                      Well Billy Joe Saunders comes in at 174,Golovkin at between 170 and 173,Lemiuex at 180 I think. Charlo at 176.And most successful supermiddles at around 178, im talking Calzaghe, Jones, Ward ect. So I don't think I'm far off. Basically Canelo is still a middle really, i dont think he'll have trouble making weight, he just didn't cut water for Kovalev.
                      He's always been able to cut weight well (*cough* diuretics and IV *****ty cough*) so yeah no doubt he could make middle again without too much trouble.

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