Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: We Want GGG at 160 - But We'll Make A lot of Noise at 168!

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  • Patsfan bri
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    #31
    Dazn is the only reason why this 3rd fight will happen. They own Canelo and this why wilder didn’t want to sign with them.

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    • Mindgames
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      #32
      Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
      Hells no. Chavez Sr. corroborated that Zurdo Ramirez would blow up past 190lbs when he was at 168. Same thing has been said about Callum Smith. Those GUYS ARE HUGE! Also, Benavidez as well. David is young, so his tolerance is expected. Benavidez is about 192lbs easily at 168. Especially lately. Look at the Dirrell fight. He's massive! Probably bigger than Smith or when Zurdo campaigned at 168.
      I'm talking about the weight they get In the ring at. Jones Calzaghe, Ward, Froch, all between 176 and 178,as effective super middles. Canelo doesn't have the frame to go higher and be effective, and he doesnt need to. He might walk around at 190, but thats alot different to your fight weight. Canelo didn't look cut against Kovalev, he had a little bit extra on the waist, no muscle loss needed to drop back down from light heavy. Kovalev himself has started to come in at closer to 182 from hes heaviest 189.It was a stamina drain. Canelo will make middle fine.

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      • Satir
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        #33
        Originally posted by Boxing_1013
        If one guy gets stopped, I would probably favor GGG to get stopped...but in general I agree with your point...I think Canelo knows how tough those 2 fights were, especially fight 2 where he held his own in the center of the ring against GGG, and he knows how dangerous that felt in there...I don't know if he can get as motivated again as he was for fight 2 - Canelo had everything to prove in that fight.
        This is the problem, "holding your own in the center of the ring against GGG" doesn't automatically win you the fight, and GGG, he wasn't holding his own enough in the center of the ring against Canelo or maybe was holding his own but not in the center of the ring?
        First they made them believe it was a draw, second they made them believe Canelo won, now trying to pretend like he'll ko him, even at this age GGG will put some hands on Canelo and it will be a 12round close decision again

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        • Silver Spear
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          #34
          Originally posted by Mario g
          Being juiceup, it will be a walk in the park for Clenbuterol Clenero making 160.
          I think you misunderstand how the juice works. Maybe you should define your version of said juice.

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          • Silver Spear
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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing_1013
            SD gave GGG his toughest fight and has a legit claim for beating GGG...Canelo can't say that.
            Did you not watch the 2nd fight between them? You think jabs and 1 or 2 solid punches wins you the fight?

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            • Silver Spear
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              #36
              Once Canelo moved up past 160 I doubted he would ever come back down. There is financially nothing there for him as well as no solid opponents. Charlo does not qualify until he beats other quality opponents. Running your mouth is not the same as walking the walk.

              Canelo's future is at 168 and possibly 1 or 2 fights at 175. There are still a handful of opponents for him at 168 that he can finish his career on and if he wants to test himself again he has a few at 175.

              160 is close to dead........again........

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              • -Kev-
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                #37
                The fight should take place at 168 for health reasons. Canelo would be biting off more than he could chew if he goes back down to 160. He thinks he’s invincible. Weight drainage catches everyone, even the best in history.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mindgames
                  I'm talking about the weight they get In the ring at.
                  Lol. That’s what I’m telling you! I’m not talking about walk around weight. I’m talking about in the ring. You do realize UFC fighters would cut 25lbs to drain? Crawford could do 18lbs when he was at 135. Chavez Jr. would do the same as UFC fighters when he was WBC Champ at 160 on HBO. He was bigger than Andy Lee! Chavez Jr. was like 185lbs in the ring as a Middleweight. He was a protected fighter on Top Rank and they all bent cause he was the son of the legend.

                  Like I said, Benavidez is young, he can easily cut 20lbs of water no problem dude.

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                  • Boxing_1013
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Satir
                    This is the problem, "holding your own in the center of the ring against GGG" doesn't automatically win you the fight, and GGG, he wasn't holding his own enough in the center of the ring against Canelo or maybe was holding his own but not in the center of the ring?
                    First they made them believe it was a draw, second they made them believe Canelo won, now trying to pretend like he'll ko him, even at this age GGG will put some hands on Canelo and it will be a 12round close decision again
                    ? Perhaps something was lost in translation...but I felt GGG won fight 2 by the same margin he won fight 1 by...Canelo fought better in fight 2, but he still wasn't active enough imo.

                    Originally posted by Silver Spear
                    Did you not watch the 2nd fight between them? You think jabs and 1 or 2 solid punches wins you the fight?
                    I did, have watched it a number of times...the only way I think one can score it for Canelo is to not score a lot of GGG's work...he was just a lot more active than Canelo in most every round and outlanded him pretty heavily in quite a few rounds...Teddy Atlas had it 8-3-1, you still gotta score the jab man...especially when you have a great one like GGG has.

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                    • icha
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                      Teddy Atlas had it 8-3-1, you still gotta score the jab man...especially when you have a great one like GGG has.
                      GGGs own trainer had it a draw LMAO...
                      you know something is wrong when your own trainer doesnt score the fight for you...

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