No, actually what I'm saying is that NO logical person would actually even attempt to conjure up such a plethora of "Plausible Deniability" excuses for every single one of Fury's improprieties. And for the unmpteen time, when someone has a defrauding "Body of Work" , it no longer qualifies as a conspiracy theory when people see what appears to be him adding to his legacy of transgressions.
What the *** is so hard to understand about that ????
So while your trying to conviently narrow the convo down to 1 incident (Hammer fight glove incident). What I was saying earlier was that it doesn't matter if he was innocent in that 1 incident, because the probability of him being innocent in all the rest is HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
U got the sparring partner identifying tampered gloves BEFORE the 1st fight. Then u got the jilted farmer who said Tyson stiffed him and paid him to lie. Then u have past ******* use. Then u have gloves flapping in the wind during the first fight. So from a neutral party or prospective who will appear to be the fool ? Would it be me who is looking at the tainted body of work and concludes that this guy is dirty.
Or you looks at the same body of work and exonerates him every time with 1 silly plausible deniability excuse after another ?
Lastly what u said about the Peterson trail doesn't matter because he would of NEVER been retried for murdering the 3rd wife had the 4th never disappeared. So obviously and circumstantially he was retried based on his past, as was O.J. in his Vegas case.
So if u believe your 2-0, it's only because it's your score card. And we all know if it's your score card, it's probably as crooked as Fury's reputation. My suggestion, give up, u got bodied and resurrections only occur in the Bible.
If u decide to respond I probably won't to avoid redundacy as we've been over the same sh.t for quite some time now and it's really as simple as u believe everything Fury says, and I don't.
You’re actually terribly comical lol you brought up a criminal case to compare it to this situation, then when you realise it doesn’t back your cause you say, “it doesn’t matter” LOL you brought up your wrongly perceived view of circumstantial evidence to back your cause, then when corrected and presented with actual circumstantial evidence, it all of a sudden becomes irrelevant LOL just like the last thread you ran from, you tried to double down and say he’s a cheat because he committed a foul in the fight, then when presented with the fact that some of the modern greats of our era also used dirty tactics (making them, by your standards, a cheat), you scarpered lol
This “body of work” you’re talking about literally has nothing to do with Fury somehow (still unexplainably) repeatedly dislodging his hand from the glove seemingly at will.
Sparring glove; who says it was Fury’s? Seriously? Some previously unknown below average boxer that hasn’t (and will not) achieve anything of significance in the sport, a guy that literally has no profile to speak of outside his own circle? Lol I found an empty crisp packet with some jizz inside it next to a dead dog. I’m saying that proves you r@ped said dog to death. The crisp packet had your name written on it in pink permanent marker!!!!!!!
A man is accused of murder, said man has a checkered past that includes stealing a Mars bar, smashing a window and headbutting his nan...oh...look at that...his “tainted body of work” means he must be a murderer!!!
That is literally how daft you sound.
To answer your question of who would appear the fool...it would be the one who is ignoring all logical explanations and actual circumstantial evidence (a concept that you at first swore by) that directly pertains to the conspiracy theory in question. “But there’s these unrelated past incidents, so that trumps all the logical (still not refuted) explanations, the circumstantial evidence and complete lack of direct, physical evidence because it doesn’t fit with my point of view that was initiated by known racists on YouTube.”
For somebody that “doesn’t even like Wilder” and isn’t a conspiracy theorist...you sure do come off as a fingers in your ears, eyes closed, Wilder loving conspiracy theorist lol
I think it would be best that you not respond. You keep making yourself look like an absolute wally lol 3-0, treacle. This is like the Fury vs. Wilder trilogy, embarrassingly one sided lol
It's amusing to watch SugarRaRobinson making a fool out of himself yet again.
I actually feel somewhat embarrassed for him lol he talks about “Fury’s gloves flapping in the wind”...the only things flapping in the wind are his feeble arguments and quickly dismantled rhetoric lol
“I’m not a Wilder fan” he says.
“I’m not a conspiracy theory tinfoil hatter” he says.
lets be real...its extremely important to understand the context behind this conspiracy theory, the actors that engage in it and so on. This conspiracy was not created out of good faith or for the "integrity" of boxing. Their has always been a racial angle/agenda/narrative behind it as evident by its biggest proponents
but lets talk about the other ***** you bring up. You bring up steroids. None of you Wilder fanboys gave a ***** that Fury popped back in 2015, around the time of the first fight, in fact you spent type hyping him up as it was a clear cherry pick of a Fury that has been out of the ring for 3 years, 400 lbs, mental illness and drug abuse (******* as you say) None of you gave a **** about the integrity of boxing when Wilder fought Ortiz, who popped twice, twice (pun intended).
Let's talk about glove gate which is from the first fight mind you, not the second one where Wilder got his ass beat. There is clear footage of Fury raising his glove up during the fight. He also signals to the ref to help with his glove around the 4th round or so. Definitely not something a cheater would do, but nonetheless, Wilder fanboys didn't give a **** or mention this at all until he got beat in the second fight.
Let's talk about the Hammer incident that you morons keep bringing it up. It was about a detached thump piece to his glove, has nothing to do with the conspiracy theory whats so ever.
Ahh yes, let's not forget the farmer that supposedly admitted that he lied and waited 5 years after the fact now that Fury has become popular again after his recent beat down of Deontay Wilder. He claims that he was coerced into it. Not su****ious at all /s
It's clear as day that this whole list of cheating accusations and conspiracy theories were triggered by an emotionally immature fan base that made Wilder out to be this God-like figure, and now that he lost, simply can't handle that reality.
Post of the week. Spot on with every single paragraph in here. Especially how this same Wilder fanatics were singing Fury’s name when he came off the couch to sign for the Wilder cherrypicked fight.
And you can’t put any weight on what the racist, unbiased Wildettes who made those initial videos say. I mean...it’s gone from...Fury removed the padding out of his glove, then when reminded that’s literally impossible to get away with in this day and age, it changed to...he somehow dislodged his hand from the glove. I’ve seen the same pictures and videos, but I’m presuming unlike you, I then went and watched the videos that totally debunk it. The scales are so unfairly balanced in Fury’s favour that it is actually ridiculous people are burying their head in the sand and continuing to perpetuate this desperate nonsense lol
Can you link me the vids that debunk it? I’ve missed them I guess.
lol, I came back to see people think I cared that bad that Wilder lost. I wasn't a fan of Wilder's technique. I was a fan of his power. Of course I knew he had crap technique. Let's defer back to Wilder-Ortiz 2! Wilder was losing every single round until the equalizer. Don't think I give a ***** about you saying Wilder has no technique and it bums me out. I KNOW HE HAS NO TECHNIQUE.
That wasn't the point. My whole simple post was that,the glove floppying all over the f**king place is not normal in boxing. If you ever see that, RAISE A FLAG. It is NOT normal. You can dig up another fighter who may have done it, but again, it's NOT normal. Have YOU ever wore a damn glove? I've worn plenty of standard boxing gloves for sparring and NONE of them ever flopped on me, in fact the majority curled inwards with my fist. Ever seen a MIKE TYSON fight before? Find a video with him and the gloves folding behind his wrist. Damn.
There are many different types of gloves and they behave in different ways. This video explains some of those differences and looks at Everlast MX fight gloves, which Fury wore in the first fight with Wilder.
Can you link me the vids that debunk it? I’ve missed them I guess.
Just type in YouTube “Tyson Fury glove debunked”. There’s just as many as the conspiracy theories. HatmanStrikesBack has one regarding the type of glove used and how the combination of foam and horsehair padding (full foam padded gloves are what the majority of boxers prefer) makes a glove more flexible. I think there’s one a few pages back on this thread that shows Canelo’s glove doing exactly the same thing, Mayweather’s and Wilder’s gloves doing something similar (not exactly the same). There’s one on the MayweatherGym channel where boxers are trying it out and completely shoot it down and say how ridiculous it is. Then plenty of others who demonstrate why it simply would not happen.
The problem with conspiracy theories is that they are always so far fetched, there’s so much reaching and clutching at straws...yet the debunking of these theories is so simple, matter of fact and logical. The people that perpetuate these theories can never reasonably debunk the debunkers. The conspiracy theorists' debunking is just as far fetched as the theories they first laid out.
Logic wins every time.
I’ve just noticed the video above has the video from Hatman regarding the type of gloves used.
Last edited by Squared.Circle; 04-10-2020, 10:16 AM.
Reason: See the video above
The only thing that's clear to me is that instead of 1 nut-hugging suck-up ready and willing to risk it all for a fat lying swindler, now we have at least two !
Goodnight, and save any further cover up Narritive for someone who loves listening to the Bullsh.t, Someone like
Nacho Daddy !
i figured that you did not have the intellectual capacity to challenge my post...
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