Comments Thread For: Warren: Tyson Fury Glove Allegations Are Pathetic, It's ******!

[Squared.Circle]

U must have me confused with someone else, cause I never stated or implied that any "powers that be" conspired to help Fury get away with anything. This is the last time I'm gonna try to explain to u that u can't use what others have said to try and prove your point with me.

Secondly, Fury has enough collective "circumstantial evidence" to warrant a conviction if not just reasonable su****ions. In a court of law, many people are convicted merely with circumstantial evidence.

If u go back and look at the Drew Peterson or Scott Peterson case you'll realize it happens every day in this country. The reason why its happens speaks to the age old adage, "Where there's smoke, there's usually fire".

In other words, u don't need a smoking gun to convict someone who always has smoke around them. But u do need a special kinda idiot, like yourself, to call those who do convict these smoky people,

"conspiracy theorists"


Question,

Do u go to the trials of those who r convicted on circumstantial evidence and yell at the jurors who come out ,

"u fu.king conspiracy theorist"

Lol, just asking.

Still not answering how he can grab, grip and pull things without that “empty” part of the glove bending backwards and releasing whatever he’s grabbing, gripping and pulling lol if this was indeed a criminal trial and you were the lawyer with your “circumstantial evidence”...it would be thrown out of court with the amount of questions you avoid answering lol

Circumstantial evidence relates directly to the case in question. Not...”Tyson Fury once had the thumb stitching of a glove he wore detached, so that implies he dislodged his hand from the glove”...one has nothing to do with the other. Same with the failed drug test. Same with the sparring glove that is alleged to have been worn by Fury and had the padding removed. Circumstantial evidence would be, “Tyson Fury disappeared for five minutes and refused to allow his glove to be inspected”...or...seeing as you mentioned Drew Peterson, “Tyson Fury was once caught dislodging his hand from the glove”, it’s not direct evidence, but circumstantial evidence that directly pertains to the conspiracy theory in question, and implies the possibility of tampering. Circumstantial evidence is also heavily based on reasonable doubt. There is no reasonable doubt when those doubts can be and have been reasonably answered...with sound logic. Answers that are considerably more logical than the questions themselves. And yea, using American law as a precedence is really damning. You know, when there’s cases like that of Richard ***el or White Boy Rick. Where was this damning precedence for circumstantial evidence with OJ Simpson? LOL

To say Fury tampered with his glove is, by extension, saying that more than one person was involved. His training team would have to be involved, the athletic commission would have to be involved, the WBC representative that is present the entire time would have to be involved, Jay Deas would have to be involved seeing as he is present during the wrapping of the hands and the fitting, lacing and taping of the gloves. “Yea but Panama Lewis and Margarito”...don’t even try it lol moot points, seeing as those incidents are the exact reason for today’s stringent checks before and after the fights. Picking and choosing which parts of the conspiracy theory that you want to run with is indicative of a conspiracy theorist lol

Again...

Conspiracy: (i) A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. (ii) The action of plotting or conspiring.

Theory: An idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.

You’re saying a group plotted or conspired to do something unlawful (in boxing terms) or harmful, with an idea to account for and justify Wilder’s loss.

Conspiracy theory.

Any more reaching you wanna do? Shall I go get some more straws for you? You’re quickly running out of ones to clutch with each comment lol

[nacho daddy]

So Fury’s promoter said there was nothing wrong with fury’s gloves? Ok. That settles it.

Imagine if he had said: Hmmm ... yeah. Something doesn’t look right. It needs a proper investigation.

What are the chances of an employee saying that thereby kissing millions of dollars goodbye?

what about wilder waiting a week to piss test so they could clear out the PEDs he used to put 20lbs on

[nacho daddy]

Yeah, and the baby oil that Wilder was complaining about after the first fight must have been what they used to lubricate the inside of the spring loaded glove so it would slide up and down Fury's fist without jamming!

It all makes sense when you fit the pieces of the puzzle together!

hahah me and you did some fine detective work

[Squared.Circle]

What's actually sad is how many fighters tried to cheat against Wilder? Didn't Povetkin get busted with Roids? So did Ortiz? Then Fury with the hacked gloves. I'll give to Fury, he's the only one that hacked and won but damn, nobody wanted to face Wilder mano a mano.

Listen, Fury probably didn't need any hacked gloves in the rematch to win because of Wilder's ****** costume, but, let's be real, he used a hack and Wilder's been the victim of potential/confirmed cheaters, 3 times now.

Povetkin’s failed drug test was due to the banned substance list being regularly updated with new substances. Whatever substance he was popped for was legal when he took it...it was added to the list...he stopped taking it...but still had levels in his system. He was popped on the very first test. Not the second, third or fourth.

Ortiz was popped for high blood pressure medication, but didn’t notify VADA that he was taking it. There was confirmation from his doctor. The WBC even accepted this explanation but the punishment for failure to notify is the same as coming up dirty. And, he’s like 93 years old. Pensioners always have high blood pressure.

The glove conspiracy theory has been debunked. You keep sticking your fingers in your ears and ignore all logic. It’s the only way you can justify your idol being absolutely embarrassed on two occasions lol so I understand. And the costume LOLOLOLOL yea, standing around in a 40lb gimp suit (the creators of said suit tweeted it only weighed 20lb, then deleted it) for 10 minutes and then having a 2 minute ring walk is really gonna drain the legs of a guy that runs and trains in a 40lb weighted vest LOL

Next excuse?

All hail The Gypsy King

[Tails]

This has been one of the more comical theories I have seen in boxing.

I see no benefit whatsoever for a flopping glove. You can't get a solid hit in on top of the fact that it likely feels really awkward.

Also as for having something in his glove, I am sure Wilder having fought Fury already would know right away if he was being hit by something inside the gloves.

I like Wilder as he is the American fighter but I favored Fury going in barring a knockout punch by Wilder. Truth is Wilder got pressed by a bigger man, who is not necessarily a bigger puncher, and got broken down. Similar to what Margarito did to Cotto in the first fight by qearing him out. Which is probably a bad comparison given the scandal surrounding that one as well.

[BattlingNelson]

And what are the chances of desperate, butt hurt, bitter Wilder fangirls desperately scrambling to find excuses to validate why their hero lost?

A racist YouTuber makes a video saying Fury dislodged his hand. Ok. That settles it lol

Nah. I’m not in Wilders corner. If anything I’m in boxing’s corner. I’ve seen the vids and pics from the first fight. Any unbiased fan can see it looks fishy af. Warren is not unbiased, so you cannot put any weight on what he says.

[BattlingNelson]

This has been one of the more comical theories I have seen in boxing.

I see no benefit whatsoever for a flopping glove. You can't get a solid hit in on top of the fact that it likely feels really awkward.

Also as for having something in his glove, I am sure Wilder having fought Fury already would know right away if he was being hit by something inside the gloves.

I like Wilder as he is the American fighter but I favored Fury going in barring a knockout punch by Wilder. Truth is Wilder got pressed by a bigger man, who is not necessarily a bigger puncher, and got broken down. Similar to what Margarito did to Cotto in the first fight by qearing him out. Which is probably a bad comparison given the scandal surrounding that one as well.

You haven’t seen the vids. If you had, you’d notice that it appears as if Fury hits with his fist from the inside of the glove meaning without any protective padding.

[BirdSong]

fury went to kronk and sugar hill is like, wtf is this sissy slap with the left, ever heard of a body shot?

[BattlingNelson]

what about wilder waiting a week to piss test so they could clear out the PEDs he used to put 20lbs on

What has that got to do with Fury’s gloves?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Still not answering how he can grab, grip and pull things without that “empty” part of the glove bending backwards and releasing whatever he’s grabbing, gripping and pulling lol if this was indeed a criminal trial and you were the lawyer with your “circumstantial evidence”...it would be thrown out of court with the amount of questions you avoid answering lol

Circumstantial evidence relates directly to the case in question. Not...”Tyson Fury once had the thumb stitching of a glove he wore detached, so that implies he dislodged his hand from the glove”...one has nothing to do with the other. Same with the failed drug test. Same with the sparring glove that is alleged to have been worn by Fury and had the padding removed. Circumstantial evidence would be, “Tyson Fury disappeared for five minutes and refused to allow his glove to be inspected”...or...seeing as you mentioned Drew Peterson, “Tyson Fury was once caught dislodging his hand from the glove”, it’s not direct evidence, but circumstantial evidence that directly pertains to the conspiracy theory in question, and implies the possibility of tampering. Circumstantial evidence is also heavily based on reasonable doubt. There is no reasonable doubt when those doubts can be and have been reasonably answered...with sound logic. Answers that are considerably more logical than the questions themselves. And yea, using American law as a precedence is really damning. You know, when there’s cases like that of Richard ***el or White Boy Rick. Where was this damning precedence for circumstantial evidence with OJ Simpson? LOL

To say Fury tampered with his glove is, by extension, saying that more than one person was involved. His training team would have to be involved, the athletic commission would have to be involved, the WBC representative that is present the entire time would have to be involved, Jay Deas would have to be involved seeing as he is present during the wrapping of the hands and the fitting, lacing and taping of the gloves. “Yea but Panama Lewis and Margarito”...don’t even try it lol moot points, seeing as those incidents are the exact reason for today’s stringent checks before and after the fights. Picking and choosing which parts of the conspiracy theory that you want to run with is indicative of a conspiracy theorist lol

Again...

Conspiracy: (i) A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. (ii) The action of plotting or conspiring.

Theory: An idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.

You’re saying a group plotted or conspired to do something unlawful (in boxing terms) or harmful, with an idea to account for and justify Wilder’s loss.

Conspiracy theory.

Any more reaching you wanna do? Shall I go get some more straws for you? You’re quickly running out of ones to clutch with each comment lol

Ive never claimed to have all the answers (who,what,where,when, why and how). Nor do I have all the answers to your silly questions like "How does Fury pull his pants up" lol . Nor do I care. What I do care about is how does a guy with such a declarated history of cheating and millions of dollars get such a lousy defense team ? (speaking of u and Nacho Daddy of course).

As we both know, circumstantial evidence gets it right sometimes, and wrong sometimes. But is NOT always directly related to the case in question. Drew Peterson initially got away with murdering his 3rd wife as they ruled it a accidental tub drowning, despite bruising suggesting a struggle insued. But once his 4th wife disappeared they reopened the case of the 3rd wife to nail him since they couldn't find the body of the 4th wife.

And guess what ? Everytime he went to court he had some paid counsel by his side who I'm sure was trying to henge the whole case on some silly azz "Plausible Deniability" arguments like;

"If he strangled her in the tub, then how'd he pull is pants up" ?

Nevertheless, Fury is being tried in the court of public opinion right now, and I promise u his guilt or innocence won't henge on silly "plausible deniability" arguments like "how did he pull his pants up" ?

Furthermore, the word "conspiracy"
usually denotes many people involved. And no I don't believe getting some rigged gloves to the ring would be as complicated as you made it sound with all sorts of agencies collaborating together on it for it to actually be successful. So regardless of how many times u post the textbook definition of "conspiracy", it's still wrong if your not giving it proper context.

So if I'm pulling at straws, they are straws that Tyson constantly gave all of us to pull on. So u can either pull on them, or constantly keep denying the straws exist at all.