Comments Thread For: Warren: Tyson Fury Glove Allegations Are Pathetic, It's ******!

[BattlingNelson]

There are many different types of gloves and they behave in different ways. This video explains some of those differences and looks at Everlast MX fight gloves, which Fury wore in the first fight with Wilder.

Just watched. He presents his case pretty poor. I watched until about 8 mins in. That picture at that point is where he sees things that is debatable. What he says is fury’s palm looks to me to be the fingers just below the wrapped fist. What he says is Tyson’s wrist, looks to me to be his thumb.

Tell me if he has conclusive evidence in the ladder part of the vid before I dismiss it as bias Brit batty gypo propaganda?

Edit: Another thing. He goes at length into explaining that it was 2 different types of gloves in the 2 fights. He may be correct, but maybe he should have said that it APPEARS to two different types of everlasting gloves. It is well known that boxers tend to favorite one type of gloves, but that there may be marketing interests that dictates them to use another type and/or brand. That often gets done with having the preferred glove stamped with the paying sponsors stamp. I don’t think the glove type is particularly relevant though.

[MoneyKasha]

its been debunked by NSAC and CSAC

[kafkod]

Just watched. He presents his case pretty poor. I watched until about 8 mins in. That picture at that point is where he sees things that is debatable. What he says is fury’s palm looks to me to be the fingers just below the wrapped fist. What he says is Tyson’s wrist, looks to me to be his thumb.

Tell me if he has conclusive evidence in the ladder part of the vid before I dismiss it as bias Brit batty gypo propaganda?

Edit: Another thing. He goes at length into explaining that it was 2 different types of gloves in the 2 fights. He may be correct, but maybe he should have said that it APPEARS to two different types of everlasting gloves. It is well known that boxers tend to favorite one type of gloves, but that there may be marketing interests that dictates them to use another type and/or brand. That often gets done with having the preferred glove stamped with the paying sponsors stamp. I don’t think the glove type is particularly relevant though.

Like the video says, Fury wore Everlast MX horsehair gloves for the first fight and Paffen Sports foam gloves for the rematch. You can clearly see the Paffen Sports brand name on his gloves in the rematch. but the glovegate liars are only using footage from the first fight, when Fury didn't hurt Wilder, which should tell you all you need to know about how credible they are.

The type of glove is very relevant, as you will see if you watch the video.

[kafkod]

its been debunked by NSAC and CSAC

NSAC and CSAC are bias Brit batty gypos doe.

[Cool Scant]

The ref didn't have any disgusted look on his face and there is no evidence at all that the glove was damaged deliberately. Fury has huge hands and struggles to fit them inside 10 oz gloves. That thumb tab looks very flimsy and the most likely explanation is that it was torn accidentally while Fury's team were pulling the glove on his hand.

ok so if Furys team put the glove on Furys hand you’re telling me that they wouldn’t know that the glove was damaged? Lol when you put on a glove you pull up by the wrist so how would the thumb get damaged?lol Also Furys gloves are custom made to fit his hand size he’s not fighting in your cheap everlast from you local sporting goods store so his hand is big is a poor excuse. And the ref did have a disgusted look on his face I watch the video plenty of times

[kafkod]

ok so if Furys team put the glove on Furys hand you’re telling me that they wouldn’t know that the glove was damaged? Lol when you put on a glove you pull up by the wrist so how would the thumb get damaged?lol Also Furys gloves are custom made to fit his hand size he’s not fighting in your cheap everlast from you local sporting goods store so his hand is big is a poor excuse. And the ref did have a disgusted look on his face I watch the video plenty of times

An objective person only needs to watch it once to know that you are either deluded or lying.

[lion33lit]

The gloves definitely isn't 100% right but am not sure because of the floppiness. No one should deny that, but its plain dumb for anyone to suggest he manipulate the gloves up to the point where his hands are coming in and out of it and that he was beating up Wilder with his barek-nuckle. He would be at a disadvantage if that is the case and he would phuck up his hands and wrist.

How would he be at a disadvantage if his hands are wrapped properly? A securely tightly wrapped hand is considered a “weapon” if no padding is involved. Especially when the punch is thrown from the palm area of a glove that’s known to provide no cushioning or padding.

It’s not hard to imagine a nicely taped fist in the wrist/palm area of a glove, with it “flopping back” when throwing meaningful punches.

Me personally, If I could choose, I’d much rather hit a heavy bag with nicely wrapped hands over the use of padded gloves - and 9 times out of 10 that’s how I’ve always hit the bag.

I can thoroughly understand how a floppy glove concept can work when both a right left combo is thrown simultaneously.There’s tons of footage with Fury doing just that. It’s tough blocking simultaneous punches - that’s not taught in boxing gyms.

If I was in a “street fight?” Tightly taped hands are the way to go. A little extra tape goes a looong way in terms of producing a “cast” feel blow across someone’s face. And its also a good feeling when you strike the heavy bag with a variety of punches - once you strike it properly - with lots of practice of course. Fury has/had the luxury of “lots of time” to practice.

[lion33lit]

I enjoy doing this. Wildettes do one of two things; close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears and say “Nope. I’ve heard what I’ve heard and see what I see. It makes me feel better that my idol got bullied around like a 12 year old ginger kid with thick glasses and a hearing aid. Doesn’t matter what anybody says. I’m right. Logic is wrong Ner Ner Ner Ner Nerrrrrrrr” like a flat earther, or...just flat out refuse to reply and go into hiding.

Firstly, Panama Lewis was in the 80s. At that time, gloves weren’t handed to the team by the commission and weren’t inspected multiple times like they are now. The team were not under constant (literally, from the moment a fighter enters the changing room up until they get into the ring) observation by the commission. The checks you see today on gloves are because of that incident. Before the Margarito situation, plaster of Paris was never checked for. The commission never took the hand wraps post-fight for examination. The checks you see today on hand wraps are because of that incident. So thank you for bringing those up and highlighting the now stringent checks that gloves and hand wraps are subjected to before and after the fight due to past incidents.

Secondly, Fury’s gloves were not your regular foam padded gloves, they were part foam and part horse hair (undeniable fact. Easily researchable). Foam over the knuckle and front of the gloves with the horsehair padding over the back of the glove. What does that mean? The glove is more flexible from the wrist. Basic physics (and common sense) confirms this. On top of that, Fury more than likely loosened that horsehair padding by moving his wrist back and forth with “wrist exercises”, similar to how boxers used to loosen the padding over the knuckles by punching walls before a fight. If Fury could somehow dislodge his giant hand, with all that wrapping and gauze, and lower it into the wrist area...what would the benefit be? Straight punches would be completely ineffective...AND...would be more than evident with every single jab thrown. Those palm strikes (yes, a foul. But I task you to show me a fight where a foul has not been committed by both fighters) would basically become finger strikes. Again, completely ineffective; the power would be compromised due to the fact that Fury’s hand would bend back on impact. So where’s the logic? Where’s the benefit? Cheating is to gain a considerable advantage over your opponent, where’s the advantage in an ineffectual glove and an ineffectual punch? But let’s entertain you Wildette conspiracy nuts for a second...If Fury did indeed dislodge his hand, with all that wrapping and gauze, and lower it into the wrist area of the glove...how was he able to grab, grip and hold Wilder’s arm without the empty part of the glove bending back? How was he able to grab, grip and pull on the ropes without the empty part of the glove bending back? How was he able to jump on the ropes at the end of the first fight without the empty part of his glove bending back? Come on now, seriously, I want to hear somebody’s comically illogical answers to those completely logical questions. The two or three times I’ve brought it up on this forum, established, long-term posters run away to another post and never respond LOL

Lastly, you all cry and say Wilder lost because Fury was somehow repeatedly moving his giant hand with all that wrapping and gauze up and down into and out of the glove like your todgers struggling to fit into the smallest sized rubber...his left hand...when all the damage was done with the right hand LOL the slight swelling after the fight was on the left side of Wilder’s face. It was Wilder’s left ear that was cut. It was the left side of Wilder’s mouth that was bleeding. Both times (should have been three, Wilder was held up by the ropes) that Wilder went down...guess what? right hand. If you’re gonna come up with a batshlt crazy conspiracy theory...at least attribute it to the hand which corresponds with the damage caused LOL

Lastly part two; it’s hilariously convenient that nobody, including Wilder’s team, who would have studied the first fight in detail; including the thousands upon thousands of boxing experts and analysts who would have watched and studied the first fight...never spotted this such blatant egregious cheating...yet some bitter, racist fangirls on YouTube spot what everybody else missed...AFTER Wilder loses LOL so hilariously convenient.

Lesson in logic is now over, kiddies. Get back to bed and continue drowning out your cries and screams with your pillow

All hail The Gypsy King.

Nice come back, but you aren’t thinking enough, because you want to “hail” your cheating boar eating hero and place him on a PEDestal way to soon.

If Wilder is bleeding from the opposite side of the cheating strike? It simply means he’s discombobulated & hurt enough to end up bleeding from any other punch that follows - he’s unable to “prepare” himself for even a fair & square shot.

He’s a sitting duck after he’s absorbed a series of palm strikes - he can’t possibly brace himself to absorb any other punches properly if he’s already taken MMA shots. He’s simply not in his right mind, and his body mechanics will follow.

And let’s not forget. Skinny bird legs Wilder is also taking “fair” shots from a guy that’s close to 300lbs - it’s that simple - it’s no surprise he bled like he did. Let’s not forget what “sport” we’re talking about.

[lion33lit]

Is Wilder's team so dumb that they can't even oversee the putting on of wraps and gloves properly?

C’mon man, the commission & teams of opposing camps have been notoriously incompetent in overseeing hand wrapping and drug use. That’s a fact!

Any team can be fooled. It’s been happening for years; that’s why when trainers like Naazim Richardson, Mayweather Sr. etc., make it their duty to call out the other team (because they sense something fishy) it turns out to be a HUGE deal with someone FINALLY getting caught or running away from the fight.

They’re hundreds of stories out there in Boxingville. Don’t fool yourself.

[Squared.Circle]

Nice come back, but you aren’t thinking enough, because you want to “hail” your cheating boar eating hero and place him on a PEDestal way to soon.

If Wilder is bleeding from the opposite side of the cheating strike? It simply means he’s discombobulated & hurt enough to end up bleeding from any other punch that follows - he’s unable to “prepare” himself for even a fair & square shot.

He’s a sitting duck after he’s absorbed a series of palm strikes - he can’t possibly brace himself to absorb any other punches properly if he’s already taken MMA shots. He’s simply not in his right mind, and his body mechanics will follow.

And let’s not forget. Skinny bird legs Wilder is also taking “fair” shots from a guy that’s close to 300lbs - it’s that simple - it’s no surprise he bled like he did. Let’s not forget what “sport” we’re talking about.

I gave it plenty of thought, which is why nobody has been able to logically answer or dispute anything I’ve raised. Literally, not one single logical answer lol

Wilder said Fury didn’t hurt him...so saying he’s “discombobulated & hurt” is factually incorrect and just another attempt to justify his beat down...AKA...not a logical answer.

Palm strikes? I thought it was due to the fact that he was somehow repeatedly dislodging his hand from the glove and lowering it into the wrist area, throwing a “bare knuckle punch” then moving it back up to the correct position? Over and over and over again (literally impossible, he wouldn’t be able to dislodge his hand to that area anyway, let alone bend his wrist 90 degrees to punch with his knuckles). Which is it? Palm strike or dislodging his hand? And if a palm strike makes Fury a cheater, then is Wilder a cheater too? Seeing as he’s used palm strikes/inside of the glove shots his entire career? Lol watch half the punches he hits Audley Harrison with. Watch how he drops Stiverne in the second fight. What how he punches Duhaupas. They’re just the top three that come to mind, I guarantee if you rewatch at least 30 of his fights, you’ll see him land those same shots.

You do realise...a correctly thrown gloved punch is considerably more damaging than a bare palm strike, right? That’s literally not even up for debate lol if Wilder gets “discombobulated & hurt” from a few palm strikes...then how is he even a boxer? No wonder Sconiers (lol) dropped him. No Wonder Molina (lol) made him do the chicken dance. He must have a worse punch resistance than AJ lol