Prime JAMES TONEY Vs Usyk @ 200lbs

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  • BoloShot
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    #61
    Originally posted by boogbx
    Toney is an ATG but it’s difficult to gauge who he’d beat and wouldn’t.

    I forgot who si was arguing with but they made me rewatch the Tiberi and Griffin fights.

    Toney by no stretch of the imagination is an unbeatable fighter, but at his best he was a site to see.

    European robotic fighters like USYK would be good for Toney on his best day, but USYK isn’t a push over either it’s a tough fight because USYK boxes better than Jirov.
    Usyk isn't robotic, just because he's Eastern European doesn't mean he's robotic.

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    • Long jabber
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      #62
      its an unfair match up. usyk is tailor made for toney. it would look like the barkley beatdown all over again

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      • BoloShot
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        #63
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Right, except for the fact Jirov is garbage and Usyk isn't.
        People seem to have the idea that Jirov was really good. He really wasn't that good. Tough and relentless yes but not a very skilled fighter.

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        • MoneyKasha
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          #64
          Originally posted by Long jabber
          its an unfair match up. usyk is tailor made for toney. it would look like the barkley beatdown all over again
          yeah because the dude that lost clearly to David Tiberi can beat Usyk

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          • Nay_Sayer
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            #65
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            And seriously, you're going to act like Toney couldn't possibly lose to Usyk when he was in debatable fights against the likes of Tiberi, Rahman, and Sam Peter, if he wasn't outright losing those fights?
            I never made that argument. However, fact is, an ole past it James Toney holds a KO win over Evander Holyfield @ HW - which is LEAGUES better than anything Usyk has managed in the division so far.

            The argument I made is that if Usyk were a natural '60-68lb'er, prime Toney *clowns* the likes of an Usyk who has no power and is way too easy to hit...

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            • BoloShot
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              #66
              Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
              LMAO

              Usyk's level??? Usyk, on a good day, is a B- fighter at best.
              That's just not true. B- fighters don't out themselves in the position to be called a top 5 p4per.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                I never made that argument. However, fact is, an ole past it James Toney holds a KO win over Evander Holyfield @ HW - which is LEAGUES better than anything Usyk has managed in the division so far.

                The argument I made is that if Usyk were a natural '60-68lb'er, prime Toney *clowns* the likes of an Usyk who has no power and is way too easy to hit...
                Evander Holyfields corpse, you mean.

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                • BoloShot
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                  #68
                  I love James Toney, one of my favourite fighters to ever watch but my Lord did he struggle with people who can move very well. At 200, he's totally screwed against Usyk. Usyk UD. He doesn't leave himself that open to counters and he won't sit on the inside with Toney to trade.

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                  • MoneyKasha
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                    #69
                    guys stop feeding into the troll

                    Nay Sayer is a pro-black fighter only guy, he will never respect white fighters.... no point in trying to tell him why he should respect Usyk

                    let him cry about Wilder losing

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Long jabber
                      its an unfair match up. usyk is tailor made for toney. it would look like the barkley beatdown all over again
                      Toney is actually tailor made for Usyk to be honest.

                      Barkley Are you actually serious? A past it Iran Barkely? You are comparing that to Usyk?

                      Delusional.

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