Comments Thread For: Fury vs. Joshua: Hearn Aims To Nail Down Two-Fight Deal

[Eff Pandas]

Power only? Not handspeed, technique, counter punching and inside fighting? Because Fury doesnt counter punch, and fury has terrile technique on landing left hooks, he slaps it, He smothers his own work and relies on his sheer size and weight to wore his opponent down than his actual punches.

Handspeed? We talking about 250+lb mfers. That's like bringing up foot speed when talking about turtles.

Idk that AJ is better at anything that matters except power. It's not like he's GRJ to Fury's Joe Joyce in hand speed. If anything maybe AJ is better at technique or counter punching, but does he do it well enough & better enough for those things to make a difference in the outcome? I say no. Fury might not be better at textbook or pretty with his shots, but he's exceptional at winning & outperforming top boxers. It's a 80/20, 70/30 Fury leaning fight.

Randomly this fight is less exciting when you really think about the matchup than Fury vs Wilder, but the anticipation of it might be greater for the sheer purpose of it deciding #1 without argument (I personally feel Fury's dominance in the rematch & AJ's loss by KO less than a year ago still has already decided who's #1, but I'm sure there are plenty who might disagree).

[Roberto Vasquez]

Idk what AJ can do that makes him the favorite here. He can't outbox Fury in his dreams. He can't punch harder than Wilder. Maybe in that middle ground of being a better boxer than Wilder with a hard enough punch to end things there is a window to winning but I still see this as 70/30 Fury worst case for Fury.

Fury already said an amateur AJ surprised him in sparring. Don't buy the hype. Whatever Wilder is, he is not a skilled boxer. Once Fury gets in with someone who is big, can box and can punch - things change. Fury looked average against Wallin and those bums he fought before the first Wilder fight...

Also don't forget Fury already turned down an AJ fight. This fight will be closer than you think

[champion4ever]

He came very close to destroying him, but Breland threw the towel in lol

Oh yea, sorry, that was Anthony Dirrell’s fault! Lol!

Before he was cleared and checked out of the hospital Wilder suffered no permanent head or brain injuries of any kind. Nor did he suffer any type permanent neurological damage whatsoever either.

Not only that, he even ate an awful lot of head punches without going down in the process; Which all confirmed what Wilder has been saying all along and that was Tyson Fury has pillows for fists.

One can say what they will about Deontay Wilder but he has to be one of the bravest and most courageous people and boxers there has ever been and one I have ever known. He is full of self confidence and has a very strong belief and conviction in both his ability and God.

He displayed a certain amount of champion heart in that ring against Tyson Fury; Of the likes of which we will never see again.

Tyson Fury was going to have to seriously hurt Deontay in that ring in order to have him carried out on a stretcher before he would have so much as pondered of giving up but he couldn't.

Which is now going to setup one the best boxing trilogies in modern history. Now Wilder knows that Tyson Fury can't hurt him.

He took his best shots and was still throwing back. Now it's Tyson Furys' turn to see just how well he can take Wilder's best. Also, what is so dangerous and scary about this whole scenario is that we have not seen the very best of Deontay Wilder yet in this trilogy.

Wilder is due for a monster performance and I expect it to happen on July 18th of this year because he is neither damaged ruined or broken.

[Squared.Circle]

Before he was cleared and checked out of the hospital Wilder suffered no permanent head or brain injuries of any kind. Nor did he suffer any type permanent neurological damage whatsoever either.

Not only that, he even ate an awful lot of head punches without going down in the process; Which all confirmed what Wilder has been saying all along and that was Tyson Fury has pillows for fists.

One can say what they will about Deontay Wilder but he has to be one of the bravest and most courageous people and boxers there has ever been and one I have ever known. He is full of self confidence and has a very strong belief and conviction in both his ability and God.

He displayed a certain amount of champion heart in that ring against Tyson Fury; Of the likes of which we will never see again.

Tyson Fury was going to have to seriously hurt Deontay in that ring in order to have him carried out on a stretcher before he would have so much as pondered of giving up but he couldn't.

Which is now going to setup one the best boxing trilogies in modern history. Now Wilder knows that Tyson Fury can't hurt him.

He took his best shots and was still throwing back. Now it's Tyson Furys' turn to see just how well he can take Wilder's best. Also, what is so dangerous and scary about this whole scenario is that we have not seen the very best of Deontay Wilder yet in this trilogy.

Wilder is due for a monster performance and I expect it to happen on July 18th of this year because he is neither damaged ruined or broken.

My goodness, you’re as deluded as the man himself LOL Fury can’t hurt him? He hurt him at least twice in the first fight and had him staggering around the ring like a new born giraffe in the second. HE STIFFENED HIM UP WITH A JAB FOR SH&T SAKE LOL!

Oh yea, but his costume, legs drained, right? LOL

It’s Tyson Fury’s time to see how well he can take Wilder’s best? Have you even watched a single round out of the 19 they’ve fought? Was Fury not dropped with the same kind of right hand that sent Ortiz to Neptune? Followed by a flush left hook? Followed by a clean right hand after he got up? Did Fury not take at least five flush right hands from Wilder in the second fight? Did you not see the marks on the left side of Fury’s face from the few that landed? They’re all rhetorical questions. I do not wish to hear more of your delusions lol

[champion4ever]

My goodness, you’re as deluded as the man himself LOL Fury can’t hurt him? He hurt him at least twice in the first fight and had him staggering around the ring like a new born giraffe in the second. HE STIFFENED HIM UP WITH A JAB FOR SH&T SAKE LOL!

Oh yea, but his costume, legs drained, right? LOL

It’s Tyson Fury’s time to see how well he can take Wilder’s best? Have you even watched a single round out of the 19 they’ve fought? Was Fury not dropped with the same kind of right hand that sent Ortiz to Neptune? Followed by a flush left hook? Followed by a clean right hand after he got up? Did Fury not take at least five flush right hands from Wilder in the second fight? Did you not see the marks on the left side of Fury’s face from the few that landed? They’re all rhetorical questions. I do not wish to hear more of your delusions lol

Then why in the fuck isn't he in a fucking hospital on life support? Answer that for me genius. The motherfucker would have been in a Goddamned coma in the ICU if what you are saying is true.

Wilder was more tired than he was ever hurt by any of Fury's punches because Tyson would have been able to easily finish him off and put him away but couldn't. Hell, Deontay said that he was much more hurt by Ortiz than he ever was by Fury. He just had very poor balance.

As far as the controversial knockdown in the first fight is concerned; Motherfucker you know as well as boxing fans know, that was some bullshit! Jack Reiss gave Fury a gift.

That was not a ten second count. It was a ten count and a very slow one at that. Reiss had put his thumb on the scale because he was biased and was favoring Tyson to win.

Therefore, he tipped the scales so that Tyson Fury could win the fight. Had there been any other referee, other than that or not named Jack Reiss; Fury would have lost that fight by way of knockout and you know it clown.

So tell the truth!

[Squared.Circle]

Then why in the fuck isn't he in a fucking hospital on life support? Answer that for me genius. The motherfucker would have been in a Goddamned coma in the ICU if what you are saying is true.

Wilder was more tired than he was ever hurt by any of Fury's punches because Tyson would have been able to easily finish him off and put him away but couldn't. Hell, Deontay said that he was much more hurt by Ortiz than he ever was by Fury. He just had very poor balance.

As far as the controversial knockdown in the first fight is concerned; Motherfucker you know as well as boxing fans know, that was some bullshit! Jack Reiss gave Fury a gift.

That was not a ten second count. It was a ten count and a very slow one at that. Reiss had put his thumb on the scale because he was biased and was favoring Tyson to win.

Therefore, he tipped the scales so that Tyson Fury could win the fight. Had there been any other referee, other than that or not named Jack Reiss; Fury would have lost that fight by way of knockout and you know it clown.

So tell the truth!

What are you on about comas and ICU for? Was he in a coma after Sconiers dropped him? After Molina gave him the ol’ jelly legs? After Ortiz (who you just said Wilder admitted he was hurt by) pummelled him? No? Does that mean he wasn’t hurt? No. So why are you bringing up comas and ICU ya gret sausage? lol

A referee’s count is not a ten second count. The referee does not have a stop watch and human beings do not have an internal atomic clock to count in nanoseconds. The count is picked up from the time keeper, and then continued as best as the referee can. Show me a referee who consistently counts accurately down to the nanosecond. I’ll save you some time and tell you right now, you won’t find one.

The count starts when a part of the body other than the feet touch the ground (not as the fighter is falling), so when Fury’s back lands on the canvas, the count starts. A fighter must be on two feet, unaided, before THE REFEREE’S count of ten, not stood upright and looking at the referee. So the count stops as soon as Fury’s glove leaves the canvas and he’s on two feet. There are countless YouTube videos that show, when all the above is followed, Reiss’s count is off by less than a second LOL again, I reiterate...HUMAN BEINGS CANNOT COUNT IN NANOSECONDS; IT IS THE REFEREE’S COUNT OF TEN, NOT A TEN SECOND COUNT. A second out EITHER WAY is acceptable.

Reiss wanted Fury to win? If Reiss wanted Fury to win, then surely he would have said that he thought Fury won the fight, right? Wrong. He said that he thought Wilder won the first four rounds (not quite sure where he was looking lol), so that means with the knockdowns, in his eyes Wilder still won lol

If, like all you deluded ninnys claim, the fight “should” have been stopped, then Fury simply shouldn’t have been able to get back up (which he did), and shouldn’t have been able to go on and win the rest of the round, visibly hurting Wilder (which he did). Give ya head a wobble, poppet. Lol

[theface07]

Hearn will jinx himself again focus at next fight first . Never know what can happen in the 3rd fury/wilder fight . Big boys one punch ��. They fight less then a month apart but Hearn is greedy Sob !

Yes of course there is big money in Fury/Joshua given they both win their next fight. This goes without saying, the heavyweight division is the glamour class that garners huge interest across the globe.
There is also legacy. Fury is #1 right now but until he beats Joshua he cannot say he is the undisputed top heavyweight. They both want to prove they are the best. Why not make an attempt to fast track that matchup that fans want to see.
Only whiny babies, Hearn haters and deluded Wilder fanboys would criticize a promoter for attempting to make the biggest fight in the world as soon as possible.

[theface07]

Idk about this being a trilogy. I think AJ has less tools to beat Tyson than Wilder had. If Wilder couldn't stop Tyson I have lil confidence AJ can. And while AJ is a better boxer than Wilder he ain't got sh^t on Tyson in that category. I think the most likely way I could see AJ winning is by some sketchy ref stoppage which would help sell the rematch & maybe keep a trilogy intact. Overall it feels like a 80/20, maybe best case 70/30 Tyson leaning fight.

You are either a bias Wilder fanboy or you know next to nothing about boxing to make a ridiculous statement like that. Joshua is 10 times the boxer Wilder is and has solid power. Wilder didn't have the delivery system to land the Alabama Slamma right hand on him especially after a smart boxing like Fury figured him out in the first fight.
Joshua definitely has more of a chance to land a big shot on Fury than Wilder does since he has better fundamentals, better balance and a more educated jab. To say Joshua has little to no chance to beat Fury is ridiculous unless you say Wilder has zero chance to beat Fury in the third fight. Admit that and you have half a point. Otherwise, you are just blowing smoke like the majority of deluded American Wilder fanboys.

[theface07]

Can someone please explain how Dazn and Top Rank can do a mutual ppv? I don't understand how the difference in platforms can work together. Unless ESPN were to offer their PPV at the same price as a DAZN subscription. That's not going to happen. Or DAZN were to make the cost of the fight $80. Which would go against their subscriber base. Any ideas?

Believe me they will find a way when there are 10s of millions at stake. They may have different platforms but money talks and good business is good business regardless of how much either network/streaming entity have to change their business model and respective platforms.

[theface07]

Joshua might have to vacate the WBO then because Usyk isn’t gonna want to sit around until late next year for a title shot while they fight twice. If he doesn’t vacate then I don’t see this fight happening until 2021.

It would be nice for the fight to be officially for the undisputed but I suppose it’s not the end of the world. As long as the fight happens that’s the main thing.

Massive unifications in the biggest fight in boxing and arguably the biggest event in pro sports takes precident over mandatories. Don't you know that?