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  • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    I mean #1 can be flimsy in a competitive sport. It don't mean anyone was wrong. Hell the one thing you fall to mention is many & perhaps most had AJ #1 before Andy Ruiz came along & definitely before Fury vs Wilder I. I don't see the theory of your stance. And YOU even say you favor Fury so wtf are we even going back n forth on???

    As to why Fury may or may not retire that's his business. I don't begrudge anyone getting out of this dangerous sport early. Hell I encourage it. This ain't like playing in the NBA or MLB where you can play 25yrs & worse case you move badly for your age & got aches & pains. A long boxing career is gonna have you talking differently & forgetting sh^t & at the extreme yet maybe not being the same guy you were. This is a get in, get paid & get out sport to me. Stick around too long & the odds of you having bad situations in your day to day life go up wildly if you just look at many of the high level successful guys now in their 50's & 60's or older.
    you don’t talk about your the best heavyweight in he world if you have not beaten a rival champion or somebody that is considered to be your equal and then go and retire without facing him , it’s a sign right there that that fighter thinks he cannot beat him if runs away and retires and you should accept that , khan is doing that to brook as we speak.
    Fury has to fight Joshua because it’s the biggest fight in boxing right now and will make the fighters over 60 million each , it's a unification between 2 British fighter that will never happen again and it’s between the number 1 and number 2 heavyweights in the world , you run away from that then you don’t think you can beat that other champion.

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    • Originally posted by Califire209 View Post
      12.5m & 15m offers with no rematch clause if Joshua won. The fact of the matter is Eddie knows Wilder will knock out aj, if Wilder knocked out Fury in around 7 he would NOT be talking about unification.
      Wilder is (was) supposed to be the best heavyweight on the planet. Wilder is (was) supposed to be the baddest man on the planet. Wilder would (not) definitely knock AJ out...why would the great (fraud) champion need a rematch clause? Next excuse please.

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      • Originally posted by Califire209 View Post
        Wilder had no energy and was Zapped by the second round, totally different from the 1st fight where he had energy the whole night. Wilder will make the adjustments, come in at 220 and knockout Fury.
        His energy was zapped because of his 40lbs costume? LOL

        Wilder and adjustments do not belong in the same sentence LOL he hasn’t made any adjustments in his 12 year, 43 fight career.

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        • Originally posted by Califire209 View Post
          LOL AJ only has a titles back because Andy didn't train like he did the 1st fight. Wilder will come in at 2:20 make the adjustments and knockout Fury. Ruiz was sitting on the couch the entire training camp and AJ was still running for his life
          Ruiz didn’t train properly, yet impartial fighters that were in camp with him say he trained like a beast.

          He didn’t train properly, was sat on the couch for the entire camp, but never once gassed after trying to stalk AJ round the ring for 12 rounds. Makes sense lol

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          • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
            please explain to me how wilder has more ways to win than Joshua ?
            Already asked. Already explained.

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            • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
              you don’t talk about your the best heavyweight in he world if you have not beaten a rival champion or somebody that is considered to be your equal and then go and retire without facing him , it’s a sign right there that that fighter thinks he cannot beat him if runs away and retires and you should accept that , khan is doing that to brook as we speak.
              Fury has to fight Joshua because it’s the biggest fight in boxing right now and will make the fighters over 60 million each , it's a unification between 2 British fighter that will never happen again and it’s between the number 1 and number 2 heavyweights in the world , you run away from that then you don’t think you can beat that other champion.
              My assumption is Fury plans to fight Wilder & than AJ & then retire so idk what you are writing essays on.

              That said I highly doubt we only see Fury fight two more times.

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              • Originally posted by Califire209 View Post
                Wilder had no energy and was Zapped by the second round, totally different from the 1st fight where he had energy the whole night. Wilder will make the adjustments, come in at 220 and knockout Fury.
                He looked different because Fury put him under a kind of pressure that he didn't in fight one. Wilder had never fought at any pace and has always had a super low output, that includes in Fury 1.But now we know he cant handle pace and pressure. Furys body shots took abit out of him too. The grappling. And as for knocking him out Fury took the right hand away because Wilder can't box, and contrary to the myth, doesn't set f all up. He just flings it in from way outside, like he did in round 1 and 2 of this one.

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                • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  Already asked. Already explained.
                  where was the explanation pandas because I’ve never seent it.
                  Any pandas your a reasonable astute fan of boxing and without fury fighting he cannot state he is the best in the world.
                  Look if fury faces and beats Joshua I’ll be the 1st one to praise him and all I want to see is the 2 best heavyweights in the world face off and see who comes out on top.
                  Deep down you know how awful wilder really is in terms of technical ability and fury fighting Joshua is a whole different ball game.
                  Yes Joshua lost but most lose to fighters they consider inferior or don’t take serious.
                  Fury almost lost to wallin.
                  Louis lost to schemlling
                  Hearns to Barkley
                  Duran to laing.
                  Joshua is vulnerable I’ll give you that but he’s also a beast and I think this fight with fury will really determine how good joshua can be.
                  Fury cannot keep talking about Joshua and not want to face him.
                  We will see if this fight gets signed because it’s a mega event for sure

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                  • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                    where was the explanation pandas because I’ve never seent it.
                    Any pandas your a reasonable astute fan of boxing and without fury fighting he cannot state he is the best in the world.
                    Idk it's before you asked it doe & I broke down what I meant to that person too.

                    And idk man. The crazy thing is you can say anything you want. Ali called himself the best & The Greatest when he was getting dropped by journeymen & years before he fought for the title. If he wants to retire with or without beating AJ while saying he's the best he can. It's up to fans to decide how they feel about that & I imagine it'd be pretty split if he did that.

                    That said the main point is I don't think Fury has any plan to not fight AJ. He's contractually obligated to fight Wilder again & then it seems the AJ fight would come next assuming both win their next fights. That's his 2 fights.

                    The bigger point is who gives a fook what anyone says. If I had a dollar for every boxer who said his retirement date that didn't happen I'd be a millionaire. So idk that anyone should get all excited about this statement. I'd bet it's a break from boxing best case & more strategically business wise could be a move to maximize his next deal post this TR deal. Or it's simply words coming out of his mouth that he believes less than 100% or not at all like words most people say. I'll wait for the actions myself.
                    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 03-06-2020, 08:00 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Califire209 View Post
                      LOL AJ only has a titles back because Andy didn't train like he did the 1st fight. Wilder will come in at 2:20 make the adjustments and knockout Fury. Ruiz was sitting on the couch the entire training camp and AJ was still running for his life
                      My point exactly......there comes a point where not even the devil favors people (deontayduckus wearing that goofy bootleg satanica suit)...they become drifters....deontayduckus is no killer...he is the son of a preacherman.....

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