Comments Thread For: Wilder - Bury The Suit and The Excuse, Don't Bury The Fighter

[MDPopescu]

I'm not arguing with you. My point is Wilder is incapable of change/upgrading which makes me wonder if Haymon will make that decision for him as he did Ruiz, that all.

OK, I see... I can't say much on this... I guess that Wilder (and his handlers) lost too much time already... but who knows?...

[CubanGuyNYC]

Yup they’re all good on paper, that’s the point.. many of them now would be saying “oh i can do that too” but before the fight they’d be having a cautious approach too.. even someone as smart as fury didn’t realize it until he went 12 rounds with him..

Now that there’s a blueprint of course they gonna do the same thing forward..
But don’t tell me they are all a sure win over that version of undefeated wilder. Even fury was an underdog

I am a fury fan, and i was not confident he’d win with that kind of approach before the fight. Easy to say “oh see that’s what u need to do with this guy” after the fight. Easy to say he’s easy to beat after he already lost.
We forget how intriguing this fight actually was beforehand, not any expert analyst threw out bold predictions... it’s all assumptions.. Only fanboys say “oh this is a sure win bla bla bla”

I’ll bet that, even now, after the way we all saw Fury deal with Wilder, practically everyone else will still approach with caution. They’d be crazy not to. Just because Tyson, the best heavyweight in the world, fought Deontay a certain way, doesn’t mean just anyone else can. Everyone still has to deal with that right-handed missile. Fury was caught twice in the first round alone with it. They didn’t land full force because Tyson has great reflexes and defensive skills that took something off them. It’s very possible that a lesser fighter would’ve eaten them whole and woken up in their dressing room.

[chirorickyp]

Good analysis. Fury is a massive joyful skilled freak of nature. When he's focused and mentally aligned he beats anyone. Sadly nobody gives Wilder respect for taking huge shots and never never showing any signs of quitting. Wilder is one tough beast who no heavyweight will have an easy time with and they will get hurt at some point. And that's no hype. Even Ruiz would have gone down that night and AJ would have either not walked towards the ref while staring into space or the ring doctors would be trying to revive him. Tyson Fury is a freak of nature who will destroy you mentally and then destroy you inside the ring. The world and the ring is his playground and he can do whatever the h@ll he wants. Thankfully he's a God fearing man who wants to make the world a better place.

Layoff Wilder. He's accomplished as much as Vlad Klitscho yet didn't put us to sleep for 10 years while clutching and grabbing against useless undersized forgettable heavyweights. He's no Tyson Fury but Wilder has been a gift to the heavyweight division and must see TV. Where else will you see the one punch Ko or the walk away knockout. Only him. We won't see that again in the heavyweight divison for a while.

[Alan Smithee]

Many fans of Wilder including myself always knew his limitations and pointed them out on numerous occasions. " Amateurish, windmills his punches at times, light for the division, relies on his right hand, etc. Personally what drew me to Wilder was the excitement of knowing that he had that devastating power that can end a fight in the blink of an eye. I was always a fan of Earnie Shavers for the same reason. Wilder happened to run in to a better guy. It happens. Doesn't mean that Joshua, Whyte, etc. could pull off the same feat. Tyson Fury is a freak of nature that would be a tough out for anyone. Klitschko may have been on the downside but he had destroyed Pulev a year earlier. I wouldn't mind seeing a third Fury/Wilder fight. Can Wilder defeat Fury? Probably not but very few if any current heavyweights would be able to either.

[15 Rounds again]

Obviously, you don't know the difference between being a No. 1 ranked contender and a mandatory challenger. You are absolutely correct.

Dillian Whyte has been the WBC's No. 1 ranked heavyweight contender for several years now but yet refused to fight any of its final eliminators which is the reason why he has remained static up until now.

In 2017, he refused a Final eliminator bout against Dominic Breazeale. In 2018, he refused final eliminator bouts against both Luis Ortiz (WBC) and Kubrat Pulev (IBF).

Now as far as AJ is concerned; The $50 Mil offer from Deontay Wilder to Anthony Joshua was legit. It has been confirmed by many sources that the money was there but yet still Joshua refused to fight.

In addition, he yet still refused to fight Wilder again in the U.K. for a flat fee and with no guarantee after Deontay Wilder agreed to all of his terms and conditions.

So what your saying is he has been busting his balls to fight Whyte and AJ?

You need to change channels bro. Watch Counterpunch and get educated. He's a great US boxing youtuber. Tells it like it is without smokescreens

[tesholama]

I do not like Wilder, however, I admired his outstanding results, it wouldn't hurt to have a little bit more from the top list scalps, but his run was extraordinary. Unfortunately, the writer missed the point, the people turned against Wilder not because he lost, BUT BECAUSE HIS MURDEROUS ******* STATEMENTS AND BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DAMN STOPPED TO MAKE SILLY EXCUSES...

[champion4ever]

So what your saying is he has been busting his balls to fight Whyte and AJ?

You need to change channels bro. Watch Counterpunch and get educated. He's a great US boxing youtuber. Tells it like it is without smokescreens

From what I have heard he is nothing more than a shill and a tool for Eddie Hearn and Matchroom Sport who he likes to suck off big time. Moreover, I've heard he has an extreme Anti-Deontay Wilder biased agenda too. He absolutely loathes the man. They say he was doing some extreme gloating over Wilder's loss to Tyson. Now if Fury kicks Joshua's ass in an undisputed bout I wonder would he do the same.

[15 Rounds again]

From what I have heard he is nothing more than a shill and a tool for Eddie Hearn and Matchroom Sport who he likes to suck off big time. Moreover, I've heard he has an extreme Anti-Deontay Wilder biased agenda too. He absolutely loathes the man. They say he was doing some extreme gloating over Wilder's loss to Tyson. Now if Fury kicks Joshua's ass in an undisputed bout I wonder would he do the same.

You've not "heard" that - you've watched it.
He is an intelligent, balanced, impartial 'tell-it-like-it-is' boxing observer.

Your hero is a piece of ***** who didnt take his beatdown like a man. He is delusional, speaking about warriors and pheonixes and costumes and all kinds of crap. He's a fraud bro - get that straight. Everyone knows it now. #exposed.

[sledgehammer17]

The excuses by Mr Wilder were all silly, he got beat by the better guy on the night simple. In boxing anything can happen, we all know this, but I think Tyson fury has got his number and is the best in the world, no doubt about that! I'm so proud of wot Mr fury has achieved and I hope he goes on proving everybody wrong, go Tyson! As for deontay I think he should have a soft touch fight, then take on fury, but if that don't happen Tyson fury will win the rubber match, after that theres no reason why Wilder carnt come back again. Let's just hope no more daft excuses from him, this is a sport so let's see sportsmanship.

[champion4ever]

You've not "heard" that - you've watched it.
He is an intelligent, balanced, impartial 'tell-it-like-it-is' boxing observer.

Your hero is a piece of ***** who didnt take his beatdown like a man. He is delusional, speaking about warriors and pheonixes and costumes and all kinds of crap. He's a fraud bro - get that straight. Everyone knows it now. #exposed.

All because of one loss? So what happens once Fury replicates that performance against Joshua; Then what? The rabbit punching, head butting, the leaning on the back of the neck/head area, headlocking while punching to the body. Would that be cool to you and other Anthony Joshua fans if he implemented those same kind of tactics against AJ?