Comments Thread For: Wilder - Bury The Suit and The Excuse, Don't Bury The Fighter

[jonnyc420]

Shut up, Wilder was exposed by the best boxer he has ever faced. End of story.

[Ant1979]

He's a character, good old Wilder. What gets me is why doesn't he just tell the truth because that's where all the credibility is at?

If it was me I'd simply say, 'yeah got caught by a clubbing right hand that I didn't see right in the ear hole and it had an affect on my legs and balance.'

Whose going to have a pop at that? The ear is a natural weak spot with a direct bearing on your equilibrium.

The absolute last thing I would do is to bring ridicule on myself and fans by complaining about a 'heavy' costume that I chose to wear. I mean, what sort of reaction does he expect in such a brutal sport/heavyweight showdown? Madness.

[BoxingJunkie]

Good points but the fact of the matter is, Jay Dreas failed to teach him the fundamentals of boxing.

#Facts: Wilder has NO Jab. At 6'7 this is unforgivable!

Wilder doesn't know what to do when he's attacked, he just covers up and grabs.

Wilder constantly lunges with that right hand looking for that big punch but when it's not there, then what?

Wilder lives up to his name: He's wild! At times, though not all the time, he throws some of sloppiest and wild punches. In those moments he looks downright amateurish!

I believe he should fire Jay Dreas and NOT Mark Breland. He needs a coach who can teach him how to fight tall and to master the fundamentals.

[Monty Fisto]

great article

but the only guys throwing Wilder under a bus are the butthurt AJ fans

it somehow helps them forget that AJ was dropped 4x and stopped by a MASSIVE underdog on his US debut

Wilder is exactly what we knew he was before the Fury fight

his right-hand was enough to get him out of trouble for the first 41 fights in his career, but not the last one

the question... "is Wilder the hardest punching heavyweight in history"... was fair... but the subsequent follow-up question that mentioned Wilder alongside Ali/Foreman/Lewis/etc... was just fanboy sillyness, like knowledgeable posters said at the time

Tyson Fury helped most see that those comparisons were pretty dumb LMAO

Wilder will be back knocking out fools in no time

he should take step-aside money to allow Fury/Joshua, but that offer will never come...

if AJ fans think that he is suddenly interested in fighting Fury, then they are still as spastic as they were when they pretended that he was interested in fighting Wilder

WAR Bomb Squad !!

WAR King Fury !!

The only ones throwing Wilder under the bus are the AJ fans? I think Wilder threw himself under the bus when he came out with his excuse that the bespoke costume he himself commissioned was the reason for losing. And the ref. And his corner.

The costume excuse made it as a lead headline on mainstream sports sites. Casuals were laughing at it. There will have been people who were hearing about him for the first time courtesy of his weak excuse.

And realistically if you have an AJ fan and a Wilder fan, who is going to be the more butt-hurt at the moment? The AJ fan who has seen their fighter successfully regain his belts and avenge his loss. Or the Wilder fan who has seen his fighter thrown around like a rag doll, properly beaten up... and then blamed it on his costume?

And Wilder is what we knew he was before the Fury fight? A delusional, sore loser with zero belts who thinks he is a king?

I've said before, Wilder has heart in the ring and will still have unusual punching power going forward...

...but the single person most responsible for the lack of respect he is getting is himself, because of all the terrible excuses.

[Oregonian]

I've heard every excuse in the book!!! However, this one tops by far anything I've ever heard!!! Fury has beat this limited pseudo boxer twice!!! The second time was a brutal beating. So, a third is needed exactly to prove what? This will turn into Pac vs Marquez all over again. Wilder's fans want him to fight fury until he finally hopefully wins. Pac fans always wanted a rematch until he hopefully won!!!

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You, my friend bow to no one!! That’s exactly what I gave said about PAC’s fan base and now Wilder.
They are all hoping for a puncher’s chance. It is what the silly fans had hoped would happen when PAC got beat by Floyd. They still incredulously believe that he can still beat Floyd if they fought again.

Wilder is done. He is officially the new gatekeeper aka the boogeyman at HW. That basically means Wilder has several fights in him (maybe 5 or 6) but the enigma and the coveted zero is out the window. Wilder can be beat and will be beat by other boxers.
He was outclassed and exposed as a one trick pony (first fight showed us that but it’s now pretty obvious)

[aboutfkntime]

The only ones throwing Wilder under the bus are the AJ fans? I think Wilder threw himself under the bus when he came out with his excuse that the bespoke costume he himself commissioned was the reason for losing. And the ref. And his corner.

The costume excuse made it as a lead headline on mainstream sports sites. Casuals were laughing at it. There will have been people who were hearing about him for the first time courtesy of his weak excuse.

And realistically if you have an AJ fan and a Wilder fan, who is going to be the more butt-hurt at the moment? The AJ fan who has seen their fighter successfully regain his belts and avenge his loss. Or the Wilder fan who has seen his fighter thrown around like a rag doll, properly beaten up... and then blamed it on his costume?

And Wilder is what we knew he was before the Fury fight? A delusional, sore loser with zero belts who thinks he is a king?

I've said before, Wilder has heart in the ring and will still have unusual punching power going forward...

...but the single person most responsible for the lack of respect he is getting is himself, because of all the terrible excuses.

the guys who are completely throwing Wilder under a bus and writing him off...

... are mostly butthurt fans who are still crying because Wilder mocked AJ when he got dropped 4x and stopped by a short fat nobody who WAS A HUGE UNDERDOG

what happened to Wilder... does not erase what happened to Joshua

just saying

also...

1) Fury > Ruiz... not even close
2) AJ avoided Wilder
3) AJ will most likely avoid Fury

but yea, let's forget about all that stuff while we set fire to another Wilder effigy

[sanapuki]

The truth is, Wilder does not have a credible elite name on his resume. Ortiz’s best win was Jennings, which says a lot.

And now the mystique is gone and the template laid out, he will only have a punchers chance against any decent opponent that lays it on him. While he may still win some, there’s many more losses in his future.

[OldTerry]

I've heard every excuse in the book!!! However, this one tops by far anything I've ever heard!!! Fury has beat this limited pseudo boxer twice!!! The second time was a brutal beating. So, a third is needed exactly to prove what? This will turn into Pac vs Marquez all over again. Wilder's fans want him to fight fury until he finally hopefully wins. Pac fans always wanted a rematch until he hopefully won!!!

Let's be honest, all it has proven is that Fury has Wilder's number all the way around. Styles make fights. Fury is the best around so probably no one else beats him either. My preference is that after losing again to Fury that Wilder retire with the great legacy he will still have. If he chooses to fight on then we'll see for sure if he is as bad as many think or perhaps he'll silence some critics with some notable victories. If he fights on I hope his next fight after Fury is Joshua, that would still be an exciting matchup.

[OldTerry]

That’s boxing. His detractors are going to say all that, but really Fury is just too good and too big.

I’m not even mad at any anti-Wilder fan calling Wilder any names, i’d do the exact same thing for fighters I don’t like as well when they lose. It’s fun imo. And right now it’s Wilder haters turn to talk sh/t, they earned it.

And honestly his excuses have been shameful, so i’m in no mood to defend him. All I can say is that I will be rooting for him in the third fight, but his reaction to his loss has been downright shameful. While I will be rooting for him in the third fight, I fully expect Fury to use his size advantage and wrestle Wilder into submission. Wilder might be too stubborn to bulk up to 260-270lbs and thinks his 220-230lb body can really take on a giant like Fury.

I admire you giving Wilder the benefit of a doubt as I believe that Fury, style wise, size wise and tactically simply has Deontay's number. I disagree though Wilder bulking up like you suggested would be wise. Imo it simply makes him slower and would tire him more quickly. Being lean, mean and quick is what will work best for him.

[Monty Fisto]

the guys who are completely throwing Wilder under a bus and writing him off...

... are mostly butthurt fans who are still crying because Wilder mocked AJ when he got dropped 4x and stopped by a short fat nobody who WAS A HUGE UNDERDOG

what happened to Wilder... does not erase what happened to Joshua

just saying

also...

1) Fury > Ruiz... not even close
2) AJ avoided Wilder
3) AJ will most likely avoid Fury

but yea, let's forget about all that stuff while we set fire to another Wilder effigy

Regarding your 3 points. Fury is a good fighter. There's no real shame in losing to Fury. However, losing to Fury and then blaming it on the ****** costume is pathetic. So: point 1, whether Fury is better or worse than Ruiz is irrelevant. But let's concede the point anyway -- Fury is better than Ruiz. The costume excuse is still pathetic.

Point 2. AJ avoided Wilder. We can argue this till the cows come home. The two sides couldn't agree a fight. From where I sat, it did look like DAZN aggressively pursued that matchup and that Wilder turned down a lot of money. I think there's no way DAZN would try to do that if Joshua was avoiding the fight. But once again, it's irrelevant. Whether Wilder avoided Joshua, or Joshua avoided Wilder, the costume excuse is still pathetic.

Point 3. Your evidence is a prediction of the future? Really? Sorry, carries no weight. In fact, nearly everyone agrees it's Wilder that is blocking the Fury/Joshua matchup. Once again, that's irrelevant though. Wilder's costume excuse is still pathetic.