Comments Thread For: Wilder - Bury The Suit and The Excuse, Don't Bury The Fighter

[Lefty0616]

I absolutely buy Wilder's excuse. I've been there before. I've carried something for way too long once....and had no legs afterwards. I buy Wilder's story. I definitely would like to see fight 3 (no I'm not from Wilder's camp). While Fury is a better boxer than Wilder, let's not get it twisted. Fury did not destroy Wilder. When I think of destruction, I think of Mercer VS Morrison (true fight fans have seen that fight and know what I'm talking about). Wilder was a punching bag as he was tired, his legs were shot, and he had no movement. Wilder was not fresh. That became evident quickly. While Fury outfoxed Wilder in fight I, he didn't dominate the fight. Wilder if fresh, definitely has a punchers chance. I would not be surprised if a third fight turns out differently.....which is why I would love to see it. Wilder needs better folks in his corner, btw. He's very one dimensional. He needs to learn how to box/fight.

[Cobra Curry]

That was all good until the end....... Wilder bulking up will not help him..... his style is only good against people who stand off him and stay in range of his right-hand.

Pressure fighters with heart and a chin will always beat Wilder..... hes too lanky and weak to deal with it.

I got laughed at for saying Chisora would beat him ages ago..... no one could see it.

I would ask any one now..... do you think Wilder could cope with a motivated Chisora coming at him non-stop? if he doesn't land that right he is in deep waters in that hypothetical.

When this fight was mooted after Chisora fought Klitschko it was genuinely interesting. Not sure what how much Dereck has left today though.

[TheClap]

Great article. Fans are so fickle. Having a field day over the fall of a hard-working young man. End of the day, the dude has accomplished much more for himself and his loved ones, changed the lives of many for the good, than a lot of these armchair critics. Good luck to Wilder and hopefully he uses this experience to curb his imperfections and refine or add to his good traits ::

[El_Mero]

The fighter making the excuses should get ****.ted on, cause you know, no excuses

[sinisterbehavior]

A lot of people dont buy wilder's excuse, but if im about to get in the biggest fight of my life, and I feel even the slightest bit off, thats going to magnified. Its not comparable to say you train with 40lb weights on and go about your day fine.

And the other slight against him is his opposition. Did his team bring him along carefully, of course they did. But he chose to rematch a stylistic nightmare and wanted to do so immediately.

He thought he was the best and had a right to think that bc he never faced anyone better. Now he knows he isnt the best. Its hard to accept so he rationalizes it. But im pretty sure he knows deep down he needs to add more skills, specifically throwing the right and creating distance while moving backwards or laterally.

I look forward to his comeback. I dont see fury fighting for much longer, but i can definitely see the division build to a wilder-joshua unification in a few years, maybe for the vacant title when fury retires undefeated. Until then, theres still fun fights to be made.

[The plunger man]

Besides his power he has novice skill , What I can’t get over is that man had good coaches and trainers and you would have thought during all his gym time they never worked on the basics you need as an all round fighter , bad balance , no left hand , never seen him throw a combination , no inside game , terrible footwork and basic windmilling these are the things that should have been addressed and now he is 34 and almost past his prime.
We all have eyes and we all say how technically poor he was...why didn’t his team see it.
It’s too late for him to change

[sinisterbehavior]

Besides his power he has novice skill , What I can’t get over is that man had good coaches and trainers and you would have thought during all his gym time they never worked on the basics you need as an all round fighter , bad balance , no left hand , never seen him throw a combination , no inside game , terrible footwork and basic windmilling these are the things that should have been addressed and now he is 34 and almost past his prime.
We all have eyes and we all say how technically poor he was...why didn’t his team see it.
It’s too late for him to change

I would agree if he was more experienced, but its not like he has to correct or change much. If he is advancing, he still has an advantage against every heavyweight. People will now start taking the fight to him. That will result is brutal KOs happening to all but the top of the heavyweight heap. I dont think its unreasonable to expect him to add a few wrinkles to him game. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt bc he didnt have to change before, just keep doing what you do best. If your knocking everyone out cold, why change. Now if he shows zero improvement in his next outing, id have less hope for him.

[The Westerner]

Anyone who has ever served in any military would find the suit excuse laughable. I've never dissed Wilders power, if Fury had that one hit power on top of everything else the man would be truly undefeatable. The rest of Wilders game simply has never developed past novice level due to an over reliance on a power punch - that is glaringly obvious more so now than ever. The question is, at 34 years old, 40-odd fights and surely having his overconfidence taken down a peg or 2; can he adapt enough to beat Fury in an immediate rematch? I don't think so. At this point I think Joshua would beat him, possibly Whyte, Miller, Parker and a few others who have now seen how imposing their weight advantage would work on Wilder. You look at Wilders torso and wonder how he comes in so light until you see him in shorts instead of trousers, the man needs to stop skipping leg day and start actually skipping as well as doing some leg presses. Maybe even think outside of the box and start dancing to help his footwork.

*Bwahahahahaaaaah*

[The Westerner]

Anyone who has ever served in any military would find the suit excuse laughable. I've never dissed Wilders power, if Fury had that one hit power on top of everything else the man would be truly undefeatable. The rest of Wilders game simply has never developed past novice level due to an over reliance on a power punch - that is glaringly obvious more so now than ever. The question is, at 34 years old, 40-odd fights and surely having his overconfidence taken down a peg or 2; can he adapt enough to beat Fury in an immediate rematch? I don't think so. At this point I think Joshua would beat him, possibly Whyte, Miller, Parker and a few others who have now seen how imposing their weight advantage would work on Wilder. You look at Wilders torso and wonder how he comes in so light until you see him in shorts instead of trousers, the man needs to stop skipping leg day and start actually skipping as well as doing some leg presses. Maybe even think outside of the box and start dancing to help his footwork.

And he should also space out time to visit a psychiatrist regularly

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great article

but the only guys throwing Wilder under a bus are the butthurt AJ fans

it somehow helps them forget that AJ was dropped 4x and stopped by a MASSIVE underdog on his US debut

Wilder is exactly what we knew he was before the Fury fight

his right-hand was enough to get him out of trouble for the first 41 fights in his career, but not the last one

the question... "is Wilder the hardest punching heavyweight in history"... was fair... but the subsequent follow-up question that mentioned Wilder alongside Ali/Foreman/Lewis/etc... was just fanboy sillyness, like knowledgeable posters said at the time

Tyson Fury helped most see that those comparisons were pretty dumb LMAO

Wilder will be back knocking out fools in no time

he should take step-aside money to allow Fury/Joshua, but that offer will never come...

if AJ fans think that he is suddenly interested in fighting Fury, then they are still as spastic as they were when they pretended that he was interested in fighting Wilder

WAR Bomb Squad !!

WAR King Fury !!