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  • MisanthropicNY
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    #101
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    I wonder how 2003 Roy would do against Fury?

    Maybe he could be elusive enough to win a points decision.
    The sad thing is that you're actually serious

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    • MisanthropicNY
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      #102
      Originally posted by wileyhemi
      I wouldn't bet against Roy doing anything he thought he could do
      in his prime. He's the only guy who might have been better than the real Sugar Ray. His comments also make more sense than most pundits once you decode his accent
      Roy didn't even have the guts to fight in Germany against Dariusz Michalczewski

      And then got dominated by Tarver who was the only other real challenge in that historically weak division.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        I wouldn't favor anyone under 200lbs against Roy from like 97-03
        He fought very weak opposition over that time. Wouldn't go to Germany to fight Dariusz Michalczewski. Ducked Tarver. Ducked the Hopkins rematch. Get lost with the overrated Roy Jones and you better have stopped at 2003 because I would have brought up Calzaghe too.

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        • Tutsa
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          #104
          Roy couldn’t finish on his feet when KoD .... Tarver cracked the jaw for rest of his career . After his LOSE in the locker room even mike Tyson lost . Yeah but if one shot so Roy Rogers should shut it .

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          • Gamboal00
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            #105
            Originally posted by denium
            Quoted for truth. A fit and motivated Tyson Fury is unbeatable. I've also been saying this for years.
            Oh my god lmao, the delusion of Fury fans is almost as bad as Wilder!! 'Unbeatable'?!? Who's he fought, a 40 yr old unmotivated Klitshko? Who else? Who has ever been an actual test? Don't be fking dumb, a boxer can only be as good as the competition around him. This era is a super weak HW era numpty. Or did you start watching boxing last year?

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            • The D3vil
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              #106
              Originally posted by texasboi15
              Roy why you couldn't jus say something nice like Floyd did.

              Antonio Tarver Glenn Johnson Danny Green Denis Lebedev Enzo Maccarinelli all finished yo ass

              And Joe absolutely annihilated you.

              When he was old as hell. Prime Roy Jones was untouchable, please, even by Bernard Hopkins and James Toney

              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              That the fcked up thing in boxing.

              Nobody called wlad over the Hill before the fury loss, nobody called wilder a bully but a favourite before the fury loss
              People were calling Klitschko over the hill when he went life and death with fxcking Bryant Jennings.

              And Max Kellerman & lots of people picked Fury to beat Wilder because he beat him the first time.

              Originally posted by thereeldeel
              A prime Roy Jones was being outboxed by average Montell Griffin until Roy slugged him while he was down and was disqualified in round 9, up until that point Jones had been outlanded 141-113.
              And we all know what happened against Tarver.
              Oh please, and Tyson Fury was so throughly outboxed by John McDermott, that the three judges who gave him the decision were fired from their jobs.

              Plus, he was knocked down by Steve Cunningham who was a career Cruiserweight at 6 inches shorter.

              Originally posted by Madison boxing
              Yeah but I bet if wilder had beat fury he'd be some ATG. These guys are so sad and bitter it's unbelievable, on a side note I don't see many great names on Jones Jr resume either, he had 1 or 2 top wins. I also saw him get ktfo as well, he wasn't that old when the losses started happening either.
              That's completely false.

              Show me one time where Roy Jones called somebody an All-Time Great who didn't deserve it?

              Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
              RJJ has always been a hater, he hated on Floyd now he's hating on Fury... and WTF was so great on Tyson's resume? He had a paded record his dam self they acting like he fought murderer's row or some chit...FOH
              Tyson fought the entirety of Ring's Top 10 heavyweights (outside of Witherspoon) from the year he became champ. You know not of what you speak, child

              Originally posted by Nash out
              Fury has beat Wlad and Wilder, both of whom are better than anyone Tyson beat. Wilder because of his power threat, because Fury can nullify it doesn't mean others can, and Wlad was 10 year unbeaten an an ATG. Of course there is a lot of filler in Fury's record, but same goes for Lennox Lewis. If Fury beats Wilder again, Joshua once or twice and a couple more, his resume will be as good as any HW ever. And he is capable of doing this.
              Dude, Michael Spinks is in the International Boxing Hall of Fame & ended Larry Holmes who's a top 5 ATG heavyweight's 7 year reign.

              He then went onto murder a Larry Holmes that had never been knocked out before or after and beat Ray Mercer 4 years after Tyson destroyed him.


              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
              Fury beat Wlad in his prime and became Lineal Champ. .
              Wlad was 39 years old and had just gone life & death with Bryant Jennings before he fought Fury. He was far from his prime. Stop it.

              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
              He fought very weak opposition over that time. Wouldn't go to Germany to fight Dariusz Michalczewski. Ducked Tarver. Ducked the Hopkins rematch. Get lost with the overrated Roy Jones and you better have stopped at 2003 because I would have brought up Calzaghe too.
              Michaelczewski wouldn't fight Roy here in America either.

              Roy got robbed in Korea and didn't trust foreign judges. Michaelczewski said the same thing. With that logic, they ducked each other.

              And the rest of that stuff happened wayyyy after Roy was past his prime in the 2000s.

              Hopkins was still fighting at 160 until 2005. How the hell did prime Roy duck him? Roy had been all the up to 200 by that point.

              And he beat Tarver the first time they fought and fought him 3 times past his prime. So how did he duck him?

              I swear you dudes will say anything to fit your agenda
              Last edited by The D3vil; 02-26-2020, 06:13 PM.

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              • TexasCowBoy
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                #107
                Originally posted by nacho daddy
                in a million years you will never see domination of HW's like what the Klit bros did. they destroyed generations of fighters and if one lost they slaughtered them in the rematch. NO fighter was the same after they fought them and Vitale "losing" to lewis made him retire
                Lennox vs Vitali took so much out of Lewis that he hung up the gloves after that
                Last edited by TexasCowBoy; 02-26-2020, 06:25 PM.

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                • TexasCowBoy
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by nacho daddy
                  in a million years you will never see domination of HW's like what the Klit bros did. they destroyed generations of fighters and if one lost they slaughtered them in the rematch. NO fighter was the same after they fought them and Vitale "losing" to lewis made him retire
                  Do you think deontayduckus should exercise his right for a trilogy as his next fight?

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                  • SlySlickSmooth
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                    #109
                    I don't think Fury is an ATG, but his win over Klitschko is currently the best win of this Heavyweight era.

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                    • vitali1999
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Gunitsmith
                      The keyword is "nearly". Most observers thought Fury won the fight in spite of the kds.
                      Fury won the fight with or without the knock downs. I had him ahead by 3 or 4 points by the rear end

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