Comments Thread For: Wilder: Once I Knock Fury Out, You Won't Hear Nothing About Lineal Champion

[REDEEMER]

I actually wasn't doubting you on Wilder's statement about the lineal champ. I also recall him making statements about it. Wilder (like most of us) has selective memory. As fighters I respect both Fury and Wilder but as moral men I don't respect either. Of course we don't watch boxing based on the fighter's saintliness.

I have no clue what this post means pertaining my initial post quoting Wilders own words which isn’t speculative, it’s a fact . It was a fact because Wilder said it ,I didn’t assume it .

[REDEEMER]

Sorry to get involved in your debate here but I would have to agree that if Wilder is quoted or on camera saying these things then he should have the savvy to either say he was wrong or remember his lies.

On the flip side, its human to be wrong sometimes. No one is perfect and people are allowed to change their opinions. Wilder doesn't come across as very intelligent so he should just let his fists to the talking instead of his mouth.

Come on Wilder lies as much as Fury the difference is Fury is intelligent and plays sides on purpose I think . If Wilder would have won we all know he would claim to be the lineal champion ,but things didn’t go his way .

[Oldskoolg]

This weirdo and the pbc fanboys with their "lineal championship is bs" is BS! Its been around long before any of us were born and will continue to be around. Haymon, pbc and their fanbois cant get rid of the lineal championship if they tried. f'n weirdos

Explain to me how he is lineal champion when Rocky Marciano retires undefeated? Also later on, Lennox Lewis retired and have up the belts. Explain to me how Fury is lineal
Champion. Intelligently explain how I am missing something....

[TheMyspaceDayz]

The only thing easier than outboxing Wilder is stumping him with a boxing trivia question. I can’t root for someone who doesn’t understand boxing or it’s history at all. He’s not a fan. He views boxing as a job. Ya can’t talk to him about anything really because all he knows is that money is good and he punches hard. The guy is dumb. I’m sorry.

[lowblows420]

Wilder is getting demoralized for 12 rds calzaghe vs Lacy 2.0. the breeze is going to knock wilder down in 5 if he still alive

[El_Mero]

Explain to me how he is lineal champion when Rocky Marciano retires undefeated? Also later on, Lennox Lewis retired and have up the belts. Explain to me how Fury is lineal
Champion. Intelligently explain how I am missing something....

Lineal Championship vacancies are filled via a box-off between the leading contenders (the #1 and #2 contenders, or in rare instances #1 Vs #3) in a weight division. Impartial, independent ranking organisations are referred to in order to determine who the top contenders are. The typically absurd ratings and comical decisions of sanctioning bodies are ignored.

A champion may lose his title in the following ways:

- If he is beaten in a contest within his weight class.

- If he formally retires.

- If he vacates his weight class.

When a Lineal Champion, formally, and publically announces his retirement, the division’s title becomes vacant – a good example of this, was when Rocky Marciano held a short press conference in 1956 [26], and announced to the world’s media: “Gentlemen, I would to announce my retirement from boxing.” Rocky then answered questions from the journalists in attendance. His announcement was emphatic, concise and sincere, paving the way for Floyd Patterson and Archie Moore to battle for the vacant crown.

In contrast, in 2016, reigning Heavyweight Champion, Tyson Fury, Tweeted [24], “I’m the greatest, and I’m also retired.” Three hours later he Tweeted, “I’m here to stay.”

Boxing Monthly and World Boxing News both acknowledge that Fury is still the Lineal Champion. The TBRB view it slightly differently, stating that abdicated his TBRB crown on the day that he vacated his Alphabet titles – however, it should be remembered that the sanctioning bodies were about to strip him, Fury was simply beating them to the punch. As with the Adamek example outlined above, there is a difference between essentially being forced to relinquish an Alphabet belt, and vacating the true Lineal Title.

Fury never vacated his Ring belt [25] – a sure sign, that he wasn’t vacating his Lineal Title. Prior to his June 2018 comeback fight, Fury explained [23]:

“I’ve had all the alphabet titles. Titles are unimportant to me. I see myself as the Lineal World Heavyweight Champion and I don’t need any belts.”

Interestingly, Fury’s half hearted “retirement” was comparable to that of James J. Corbett’s in 1894. Despite Peter Maher claiming to be the new title holder after a retirement from Corbett, the public didn’t take it seriously and neither did leading contender, Bob Fitzsimmons [2]. Fitzsimmons KO’d Maher in 1 round, and then challenged Corbett for his World Championship on March 17, 1897.

“Retirements” can be a grey area when tracking the Lineal Title, but it is evident, the decisions of sanctioning bodies should be ignored, and only formal retirements should be accepted.

[RetroSpeed05]

Thats because Fury isn't the lineal champ. The winner has to face Joshua and we finally get to see one.

[STREET CLEANER]

I will agree that there are the rabid fans out there on all sides. I think everyone has an answer for every slight or insult against who they follow.

But, quite simply...Wilder KO's Fury on Saturday night. Fury goes off the rails and then Fury fans evaporate.

I am 50/50 on this fight. I believe in Fury's boxing skills for what I have seen and Wilder's right is legit.

I rewatched the first fight and Fury didn't run away with the fight as most here think. The first 6 rounds were competitive until Fury got confident and started to dominate.

[TMLT87]

Wilder is seriously underestimating Furys ability to talk utter ****.

[Robbie Barrett]

Wilder was calling Fury lineal for the first fight and PBC were promoting him as lineal. What a tard Wilder is.

He also claims he never got an opportunity to unify. Klitschko was told Wilder was still a baby so didn't want to. Wilder only turned into a man at 32. He then turned down offers to unify. So he's a liar too.

A tarded liar = Deontay Wilder.