David Haye has to be the smartest boxer ever

[Spray_resistant]

Really, dude barely did anything with his career, made big paydays, talked himself into a championship fight he never deserved, & never dared even take a chance in that fight.

The guy only had about 2 dozen pro fights and didn't take much damage physically in his "career".

He got the most out of anyone I can think of in the fight game while doing so little.

Personally, I actually admire what he did, I hope someday I can capitalize off of an opportunity like he did.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

War has been declared on Britain.

[Robbie Barrett]

Wilder has probably made as much and has done even less. He wasn't smart enough to take the DAZN deal though.

[WBC WBA IBF WBO]

Wilder has probably made as much and has done even less. He wasn't smart enough to take the DAZN deal though.

I think it's hard to compare the two because most of Haye's accomplishments were at cruiserweight.

Haye doesn't get enough credit though for being the only guy other than Tua to stop John Ruiz.

And he did unify three world championships at 200 pounds. So at this point, I would agree Haye has the more impressive pound for pound resume than Wilder, although Wilder's 10 title defenses is an impressive feat at heavyweight, even against lower tier competition.

If Wilder beats Fury convincingly this weekend, I would rate Wilder's career above Haye's though.

[Articulateboxin]

While I can understand your point, I think you're zoning in on his accomplishments (or lack thereof) at HW. He was also the unified cruiserweight champion and I don't think that should be tossed aside so easily. Yes his run at HW was a little unspectacular, but he won a legitimate world title in an admittedly very boring fashion, but he won it none the less and that's a truck load more than most people can say

[creekrat77]

I liked his style and actually thought, wow this Adam Booth guy has really cultivated a very effective style; fleeted footed, pawing jab, back hand always ****ed for an over hand right.
The style was great so as long as Haye could land his overhand right. It ended up being a huge detriment and made an ageing Haye very vulnerable. I was amazed Haye was able to fold Chisora with his left hand because other than that it wasn't very dangerous. Haye in his prime was one of my favorite fighters but after Wlad, he failed to improve and regressed quickly. I think when he ducked Fury was when it was over.

[QueensburyRules]

Really, dude barely did anything with his career, made big paydays, talked himself into a championship fight he never deserved, & never dared even take a chance in that fight.

The guy only had about 2 dozen pro fights and didn't take much damage physically in his "career".

He got the most out of anyone I can think of in the fight game while doing so little.

Personally, I actually admire what he did, I hope someday I can capitalize off of an opportunity like he did.

- -U brokeback pinky toe wannabee?

[QueensburyRules]

While I can understand your point, I think you're zoning in on his accomplishments (or lack thereof) at HW. He was also the unified cruiserweight champion and I don't think that should be tossed aside so easily. Yes his run at HW was a little unspectacular, but he won a legitimate world title in an admittedly very boring fashion, but he won it none the less and that's a truck load more than most people can say

- -Like his brethren Lewie, he never defended his unified titles.

[KidDinamita]

One of his best fights was against Fragomeni, he had to dig deep to win while suffering a big cut.

They fought in the amateurs and Fragomeni won the fight.

[WBC WBA IBF WBO]

he won a legitimate world title in an admittedly very boring fashion

I tend to agree with you, but I do think there is merit to the argument that once the Super WBA World Championship was created, the regular WBA World championship shouldn't have been considered legitimate anymore.

If you look at the WBA heavyweight champions during the period of time where the Super World Championship existed, but nobody at heavyweight had been given that distinction yet, it's a series of very weak and very undeserving "world heavyweight champions."

Evander Holyfield's bogus fourth title reign, the horrible John Ruiz reigns, Roy Jones Jr. cherry picking John Ruiz instead of a respected heavyweight champion, the dreadful Valuev and Chagaev reigns, and the finally, David Haye. A series of guys that never deserved the distinction of world heavyweight champion and never would have been champion if the WBA title hadn't become so weak at heavyweight.

All of them technically champions, but none of them deemed worthy of the distinction of "super," even though that distinction did exist. So I could understand the argument of putting an asterisk next to all of their reigns.