Why didn’t anyone learn from the Canelo-SD negotiations?

[Shadoww702]

Forget the fact that the thread starter lied and said he made the same money when he didn't. There is value fighting the biggest star in boxing on the biggest stage. win, lose or draw you fight Canelo come out of it a bigger future earner then fighting GGG on a smaller stage. That's what he isn't getting.

I can’t forget that dope said

Andrade vs. Smith vs. Saunders. Any combo you take would get same amount as against Canelo??? Who would pay $10,000,000 to see any three of that sht combo sandwich???

[boliodogs]

It’s the same story again.

Derevyanchenko will never get that kind of payday anywhere else! He should feel lucky to get whatever Canelo will give him! He’s an idiot not to jump on that offer! He doesn’t even have that much money in the bank! He’s not even worth a fraction of that, Canelo is being generous!

Derevyanchenko literally gets exactly what Canelo’s team offered to fight someone else days after the negotiations with Canelo’s team died.

Now GBP is lowballing Smith and Saunders, just like they lowballed Derevyanchenko. All the same people are howling about how ****** Saunders and Smith are for turning down the lowball offer.

Why don’t we ever learn?

Because they love Canelo and he can do no wrong. Is is always th other guy's fault and never Canelo. Canelo is like a god to some on here. Canelo is a damn good fighter and nothing more. He is not royalty. Jacobs and Kovalev bot got 12 million to fight Canelo so why should Smith or Saunders or any of champion agree to fight Canelo in Vegas for one third what Kovalev and Jacobs got.

[ShaneMosleySr]

He made 95% of what Canelo offered. That’s the same paycheck.

And you’re wrong about the bigger future earner aspect.

If he had beaten GGG, the Canelo fight would have still existed and SD would have been paid more.

Forget the fact that the thread starter lied and said he made the same money when he didn't. There is value fighting the biggest star in boxing on the biggest stage. win, lose or draw you fight Canelo come out of it a bigger future earner then fighting GGG on a smaller stage. That's what he isn't getting.

[Robi13]

And GGG signed to fight Saunders until GBP was willing to give him 45% of the cut at the last minute for a rematch.

Because sometimes you have to stand up for yourself, even when you’re up against a superstar.

Smith and Saunders are doing just that.

But listen to what you are saying though... ggg got the 45% AFTER he fought canelo, that’s was for the REMATCH... bjs and callum haven’t fought canelo yet... that’s why if they are confident of either beating canelo or making it close like ggg did in the first fight, they should jump at the offer to make, allegedly, 3-4x their career high payday to have the opportunity to do what ggg did... that’s make himself a very wealthy man. Ggg isn’t bagging the 100 mil DAZN contract without the history between him and canelo, and ggg doesn’t earn 45% split in a rematch without the first close fight. I don’t understand what’s so hard for you to not realize this...

[ShaneMosleySr]

You’re missing the point.

GBP isn’t offer Smith or Saunders $12 million. They’re not offering $10 million. The offer is somewhere around $5 million.

Hearn just offered another champion $7 million to fight Andrade. Derevyanchenko was offered more than $5 million to fight GGG. Chavez Jr. got $3 million to fight Jacobs.

Smith and Saunders can get what GBP is offering for other fights. It’s because GBP is underpaying while DAZN is overpaying.

I’m not saying they should get the same kind of money to fight each other as they would to fight Canelo but they will. GBP is cheap and DAZN is ****** with money.

I can’t forget that dope said

Andrade vs. Smith vs. Saunders. Any combo you take would get same amount as against Canelo??? Who would pay $10,000,000 to see any three of that sht combo sandwich???

[bigdunny1]

I can’t forget that dope said

Andrade vs. Smith vs. Saunders. Any combo you take would get same amount as against Canelo??? Who would pay $10,000,000 to see any three of that sht combo sandwich???

And Dervy is now getting 5M in his next title fight LMAO He made 400K to fight Jacobs for his first title shot. Smith and Saunders haven't come close to 1M paydays in their last fights and are no draw in US but DAZN is going to pay 10+ Million to fight each other on their streaming service? Americans don't care about either fighter unless they are fighting canelo.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Thank you! Exactly what my point has been all along.

And I don’t even get the Canelo defenders. Canelo isn’t making the offers, GBP is. He was even upset when GBP wouldn’t give SD $7 million because he wanted to keep the IBF.

I can’t wait for Canelo to leave GBP so I can watch as all these fan boys will suddenly agree with me about GBP screwing up offers.

Because they love Canelo and he can do no wrong. Is is always th other guy's fault and never Canelo. Canelo is like a god to some on here. Canelo is a damn good fighter and nothing more. He is not royalty. Jacobs and Kovalev bot got 12 million to fight Canelo so why should Smith or Saunders or any of champion agree to fight Canelo in Vegas for one third what Kovalev and Jacobs got.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Because DAZN will pay them the same GBP is offering to fight each other and all of a sudden the winner is a unified champion and GBP has to double the offer.

But listen to what you are saying though... ggg got the 45% AFTER he fought canelo, that’s was for the REMATCH... bjs and callum haven’t fought canelo yet... that’s why if they are confident of either beating canelo or making it close like ggg did in the first fight, they should jump at the offer to make, allegedly, 3-4x their career high payday to have the opportunity to do what ggg did... that’s make himself a very wealthy man. Ggg isn’t bagging the 100 mil DAZN contract without the history between him and canelo, and ggg doesn’t earn 45% split in a rematch without the first close fight. I don’t understand what’s so hard for you to not realize this...

[ShaneMosleySr]

Smith and Saunders werent offered $10 million bu GBP. If they were offered that, they would have taken it.

They were offered something around $5 million. They will each get $5 million to fight each other, Andrade, Jacobs or GGG.

If they turned down $10 million, that would be dumb. They didn’t turn down $10 million.

And Dervy is now getting 5M in his next title fight LMAO He made 400K to fight Jacobs for his first title shot. Smith and Saunders haven't come close to 1M paydays in their last fights and are no draw in US but DAZN is going to pay 10+ Million to fight each other on their streaming service? Americans don't care about either fighter unless they are fighting canelo.

[bigdunny1]

Smith and Saunders werent offered $10 million bu GBP. If they were offered that, they would have taken it.

They were offered something around $5 million. They will each get $5 million to fight each other, Andrade, Jacobs or GGG.

If they turned down $10 million, that would be dumb. They didn’t turn down $10 million.

I'm saying DAZN is not paying 10M (total) for a fight that features 2 UK fighters that Americans don't even care about that will not drive subscriptions for their app. LMAO DAZN isn't offering one or both the same money canelo fight. Dervy got over paid to get GGG a belt when he had none and Dervy still made less then Canelo offered him. GGG isn't the backup plan to get some of the money Smith and Saunders are passing on this time because GGG is already locked up with that bum ranked by the IBF. You pass on Canelo there is no immediate fight to make that money. You are delusional thinking saunders vs Smith is worth 10M to DAZN with no star fighter to pair with one of them