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  • Curtis Harper
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    #141
    If it can't be proven, then no one is wrong.

    I find it odd for a pro boxer to say someone would kick their ass (Fu ck Foreman, ass kissing shill).

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    • JMMWchamp
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      #142
      Mho

      I bealive Iron Mike would do a number on Wilder. Mike was a Beast. And if King Kong had wilder in trouble on the first fight, just imagine if Mike would catch him once. He would of been all over wilder to finish what an old Ortiz could not do.

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      • lowblows420
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        #143
        Wilders a btch disrespecting mike

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #144
          Originally posted by JMMWchamp
          I bealive Iron Mike would do a number on Wilder. Mike was a Beast. And if King Kong had wilder in trouble on the first fight, just imagine if Mike would catch him once. He would of been all over wilder to finish what an old Ortiz could not do.
          Who else beat up old man Ortiz ? Who do you see beating him in his next fight ?

          Mike isn't a southpaw
          Ortiz is 6'4'' with 78'' reach
          Mike is maybe 6' with 71'' reach

          Since who would win can't be proven, I'm suggesting that a hypothetical fight between Mike and Wilder would not look anything like Wilder vs Ortiz.

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          • -Kev-
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            #145
            Tyson was very humble with his answer and I too think Wilder beats him. The size disparity is just too much, and not only size but also power and athleticism. I didn’t like the way Tyson looked vs taller opponents that had pop like Douglas and Lennox. Now don’t get me wrong, I can see Tyson beating some guys like AJ, who was crushed by Ruiz. And prime Tyson could definitely do a lot of damage and KO to Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz.

            I think Fury’s style is all wrong for Tyson. But then the other side of me remembers a smaller Cunningham coming up from CW and knocked down Fury, but lost by TKO in what I felt was a foul punch. And I can’t blame Fury for going down hard vs Wilder because most of his opponents do.

            I’d also like to think prime Tyson is all wrong for Wlad and his cautious, jabbing style and weak chin. But I do give Wlad a shot due to size disparity and ability to avoid punches from smaller/shorter opponents in his prime.

            All in all, Tyson was an overachiever for sure for his size and height. If Tyson was a CW, he would’ve been the GOAT CW and likely retire undefeated. I think that when Tyson started facing higher skilled, similarly aged, taller fighters, he went downhill.

            TBF, when talking about good/great heavyweights facing eachother, it is better to match them in height and weight. So Tyson vs Marciano, for example, is a better fantasy fight imo, due to their similar size. When you talk about HW’s today, you’re talking about giants, where 6’3” is now considered on the “shorter” side. Ali was 6’3” and Foremans is 6’4”, and now they would be dwarfed by the top 3 fighters. So it’s not fair to match Tyson vs them.

            Tyson vs:

            Marciano
            Frazier
            Samuel Peter
            Tunney
            Chris Byrd
            Ezzard Charles
            Toney
            Tua
            Liston
            Walcott
            Joe Louis
            Schmeling
            Patterson (6’3” but weighed less than 200lbs)

            And so on...these are better matches imo because these fighters where from an era where 6’ was a good height for a HW. And I give Tyson a really good shot of going through that lineup undefeated.

            TL;DR: There’s weight classes for a reason. HW’s today do not weigh like they did 100, 50, 30, or even 15 years ago. When Wlad was dominating he was dominating with his size, height, and reach. Lewis was gone, Vitali was gone, so Wlad had the crown all to himself with no tall, skilled fighters around, and heavy punchers were just too short. HW’s of the past would be light heavyweights and cruiserweights today. Especially the one’s that weight 180-190lbs ON FIGHT NIGHT.

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            • -Kev-
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              #146
              Originally posted by Curtis Harper
              Who else beat up old man Ortiz ? Who do you see beating him in his next fight ?

              Mike isn't a southpaw
              Ortiz is 6'4'' with 78'' reach
              Mike is maybe 6' with 71'' reach

              Since who would win can't be proven, I'm suggesting that a hypothetical fight between Mike and Wilder would not look anything like Wilder vs Ortiz.
              I’m sure Tyson is 5’10”.

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              • Robertthebruce
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                #147
                Wilder is not very endearing making these sort of remarks against legends. Comes across as a bit jealous of iron mikes status. Tyson Fury is much more likable and has been very respectful of Mike Tyson. I'm sure there's a video of Wilder being ko'd by a little dude imagine what Mike would have done to him?
                Last edited by Robertthebruce; 02-17-2020, 03:02 AM.

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                • Legends456
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun


                  You know they tell me that Mike Tyson was out of his prime when he was around 23 years old ( HA! ). Fans of 'Iron' Mike phrase this assertion by referencing a short span of time in the young career of Mike Tyson : the years ' 1986-1989' when he became the youngest HW champion of all time, and just before he got exposed. I find that completely laughable and obviously flawed for sooo many reasons that I'm not even going to make any effort to dispute that ******ity.

                  We all know that quitter convicted rapist Mike Tyson choked when he stepped-up against anyone good enough and willing to fight back. Deontay Wilder would never lay down for old-man and bum beater Mike Tyson.

                  Here is something that gets overlooked when reviewing Tyson's standing among ATG HW's : Mike Tyson was protected against journeyman 'Razor' Ruddock ( Twice ), after Tyson got exposed by Buster Douglas. If you all done your homework you would know why.

                  No way does the 'Bronze-Bomber' take an L to Buster Douglas, that's like Wilder getting sparked by Dominic Breazeale, 'Razor' Ruddock would be like Deontay getting help from the ref vs. Dillian Shyte.

                  No way would the title of 'Baddest man' be given to Mike Tyson if Deontay was around.
                  Thanks for the laugh!

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by strykr619
                    Um Tyson was KOing guys who were 5-6 inches taller them him regularly. Wilder is a toothpick. Wlad wouldn't have the Chin to service, if you said Vitali that's a different story.
                    I knew someone would bring that up. You know Don King was giving Tyson giant turds to feed on. He wasn’t fighting no Lennox Lewis’ (until Tyson was past it) or Vitali Klitschko’s. Sure he fought some decent tall guys, but these decent tall guys weren’t HW greats or anything close to it.

                    We cannot, for example, say that Rigondeaux, at 5’4”, would crush any tall boxer because he destroyed 5’11” Amagasa. Because he beat the breaks vs a decent, taller opponent, doesn’t mean he could overcome any height/size advantage regardless of the level of danger the opponent faces.

                    I’m sure there’s a different level of danger between Tony Tucker and Deontay Wilder.

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                    • Curtis Harper
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      I’m sure Tyson is 5’10”.
                      IOW, Mike looks and fights nothing like Ortiz.

                      I was never convinced Mike was as good as everyone thought he was. He didn't beat anyone Wilder couldn't have.

                      Imho

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