How did a fight between #2 and #7 at HW turn in to a rematch between #1 and #2?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by Madison boxing
    Who you all hyped up after the fight then when joshua schooled him in rematch hes back to being crap again if he was so useless why did so many people pick him to win again?
    That wasn't about Ruiz being great, it was about AJ being a quitter and getting his ass beat by a bum.

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    • CHOWWOKKA
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      #72
      Funny I read the thread title and thought it was about AJ and Ruiz...

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #73
        I'm going to watch the fight again.

        I don't remember thinking Fury won 9 clear rounds
        Atleast a few of the early rounds were close from my memory.

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        • b00g13man
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          #74
          #WilderRuinsLives

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #75
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Joshua beat the #1 HW (Ruiz was #1). Wilder lost to Fury. Wilder should be behind both.

            Ruiz is still rated above Ortiz now, so is obviously viewed as the better fighter.

            Wilder is only rated there because of the robbery.
            wilder didn't lose.

            Ruiz is rated above Ortiz now because Ortiz lost again by KO and fell. There is a penalty for losing by KO. Nothing wrong with tha

            Wilder is rated #1 because when he was #3, after the draw with Fury. He beat a top 5 Hwt by KO (Ortiz), AJ lost to an unranked Ruiz and Fury struggled against Walin. Wilder moved up because of poor performances by the Brits.

            deal with it and get over it.

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            • Ray*
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              #76
              Because the landscape has changed, AJ has been knocked off his perch a little bit, I know he came back to reclaim his belt, but his aura of invincibility has gone, Fury and Wilder have both strengthen themselves by fighting each other, they have campaigned well to try and minimise AJ’s grip on the HW division. So all in all the winner of this fight deserves to be the clear number 1.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                wilder didn't lose.

                Ruiz is rated above Ortiz now because Ortiz lost again by KO and fell. There is a penalty for losing by KO. Nothing wrong with tha

                Wilder is rated #1 because when he was #3, after the draw with Fury. He beat a top 5 Hwt by KO (Ortiz), AJ lost to an unranked Ruiz and Fury struggled against Walin. Wilder moved up because of poor performances by the Brits.

                deal with it and get over it.
                Ortiz was not top #5. How does beating Ortiz move him past Fury? Joshua just beat the #1 HW, if beating #5 moves Wilder past Fury then beating the #1 should move Joshua past both.

                WILDER WOULD NOT BE RATED TOP 2 IF HE DID NOT ROB FURY. He's only there because of the robbery. You know it.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Ortiz was not top #5. How does beating Ortiz move him past Fury? Joshua just beat the #1 HW, if beating #5 moves Wilder past Fury then beating the #1 should move Joshua past both.

                  WILDER WOULD NOT BE RATED TOP 2 IF HE DID NOT ROB FURY. He's only there because of the robbery. You know it.
                  I believe he was #5 when Wilder KO'd him the 1st time. Fury defeated 2 bums after the draw with Wilder. Wilder KO'd a top 5 HWT and also Brazeale, who are both FAR superior to European dishwashers Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin. That is why the TBRB likely moved Wilder ahead of Fury.

                  As for AJ, he gets no benefit from beating Ruiz because he should've beaten Ruiz the 1st time but quit. Yes, he beat him the 2nd time but quitting against a unranked fighter should be punished severely.

                  AJ doesn't deserved to be ranked ahead of Wilder and Fury that never quit.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I believe he was #5 when Wilder KO'd him the 1st time. Fury defeated 2 bums after the draw with Wilder. Wilder KO'd a top 5 HWT and also Brazeale, who are both FAR superior to European dishwashers Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin. That is why the TBRB likely moved Wilder ahead of Fury.

                    As for AJ, he gets no benefit from beating Ruiz because he should've beaten Ruiz the 1st time but quit. Yes, he beat him the 2nd time but quitting against a unranked fighter should be punished severely.

                    AJ doesn't deserved to be ranked ahead of Wilder and Fury that never quit.
                    Ortiz was not top 5. He was 6 and wasn't ranked for the first fight.


                    So Joshua gets no credit for beating the fighter who was rated #1? and you claim you aren't biased.


                    If you want to argue resumes lets do it. Heck lets just look at the current rankings and see who's beat the better comp. Wilder and Fury have beaten 1 current top 10 ranked fighter between them, Joshua has 3.


                    Wilders robbery screwed up their rankings.
                    Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 02-18-2020, 04:22 PM.

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                    • benplace
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                      #80
                      Why would the WBC heavyweight champion that has never lost a fight (no matter what you all think) has 42 wins and 41 KOs not be ranked #1?
                      You are all delusional...

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