How did a fight between #2 and #7 at HW turn in to a rematch between #1 and #2?

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  • siablo14
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    #41
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Whoever has the best resume is number one ,Wilder and Fury have never defeated AJ so they cannot rank over him in reality doing realistic comparisons add to that multi belt holder fighting legit contenders is by far harder to achieve then hand picking guys at your leisure .

    1. AJ
    2. Fury
    3. Wilder

    Is the correct rankings ,you cannot rank someone with no belt over a multi defending champion holding 4 of them and Fury has fought Wilder ,we know who won the fight.
    Well said...

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #42
      Not sure what you guys are going on about.

      You're only as good as your last fight.

      Ruiz's last fight was against a guy that was fresh off a knockout loss.

      Joshua's last fight involved zero risks taken against a short, grossly obese dude.

      So

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        #43
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        If you think about it it's a ****ing joke. #2 fighter robs #7 now they're #1 and #2 how does that work? They've done **** all.

        Fury has fought nobody but bums.
        Wilder rematched a 50 year old.

        They've fought only 1 of the other top 10 between them.

        Fury was robbed so you can understand him being highly ranked, but Wilder? Wilder is still benefiting from the robbery, he shouldn't be so highly ranked.
        Robbie killing it up in here, again.

        People in here who act like Wilder didn't lose are similar to casual fans.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          It did and it raised Ruiz to #1. Joshua then beat the #1. Wilder lost to Fury but his ranking didn't lower when it should have, people act like the robbery didn't happen and Wilder is a legit top 2 fighter.
          Robbie please dude stop pretending to be dumb just so you can argue. Wilder didn't lose. The official score was a draw. Did I have Fury winning the fight, yes.

          AJ on the other hand not only lost, he essentially quit against an non top 10 HWT. That he only got dropped to #4 is a minor miracle. You could make a legit argument that he should've been dropped well below that given where Ruiz was ranked at the time of the fight.

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            #45
            It's pretty simple, before Dec 2018 the two best heavyweights were Joshua and Wilder. Since then one got a draw with a fat guy and the other got KO'd by a fat guy.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Robbie please dude stop pretending to be dumb just so you can argue. Wilder didn't lose. The official score was a draw. Did I have Fury winning the fight, yes.

              AJ on the other hand not only lost, he essentially quit against an non top 10 HWT. That he only got dropped to #4 is a minor miracle. You could make a legit argument that he should've been dropped well below that given where Ruiz was ranked at the time of the fight.
              Originally posted by ThirdBufferBro
              It's pretty simple, before Dec 2018 the two best heavyweights were Joshua and Wilder. Since then one got a draw with a fat guy and the other got KO'd by a fat guy.
              So Wilder is out of place, only so high from benefiting from a robbery. As i've been saying. He's not a legit top 2.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                So Wilder is out of place, only so high from benefiting from a robbery. As i've been saying. He's not a legit top 2.
                No, Wilder is a top 2 HWT because the guy who was #1, AJ, lost by KO after quitting against an unranked fighter. He and Fury, they guy he drew with, were elevated with that loss because they don't have a loss on their records.

                Losses count and like it or not Wilder doesn't have a loss he has a draw.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  No, Wilder is a top 2 HWT because the guy who was #1, AJ, lost by KO after quitting against an unranked fighter. He and Fury, they guy he drew with, were elevated with that loss because they don't have a loss on their records.

                  Losses count and like it or not Wilder doesn't have a loss he has a draw.
                  Wilder robbed Fury. One of the clearest robberies ever seen in the ring. You Wilder fans can pretend like it didn't happen but it did. He's not a legit top 2.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Wilder robbed Fury. One of the clearest robberies ever seen in the ring. You Wilder fans can pretend like it didn't happen but it did. He's not a legit top 2.
                    Stop over exaggerating. He was robbed on the one card. That was a terrible card that had Wilder ahead. On the other card he was ahead by 2 pts and it ended in a draw because Fury got knocked down.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Stop over exaggerating. He was robbed on the one card. That was a terrible card that had Wilder ahead. On the other card he was ahead by 2 pts and it ended in a draw because Fury got knocked down.
                      It ended in a draw because he was robbed. I'm not sure how good your maths is but two KD's doesn't wipe out 9 or 10 rounds won.

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