How did a fight between #2 and #7 at HW turn in to a rematch between #1 and #2?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #81
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Ortiz was not top 5. He was 6 and wasn't ranked for the first fight.


    So Joshua gets no credit for beating the fighter who was rated #1? and you claim you aren't biased.


    If you want to argue resumes lets do it. Heck lets just look at the current rankings and see who's beat the better comp. Wilder and Fury have beaten 1 current top 10 ranked fighter between them, Joshua has 3.


    Wilders robbery screwed up their rankings.
    No Robbie. AJ quitting messed up the rankings.

    When you quit against an unranked hwt because he is about to knock you out you don’t get the #1 spot back just because you won the rematch.

    If AJ doesn’t lose to Ruiz in the first fight he is still ranked #1.

    Wilder drawing, losing or winning had no bearing on the #1 ranking if AJ handles his business.

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      #82
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      No Robbie. AJ quitting messed up the rankings.

      When you quit against an unranked hwt because he is about to knock you out you don’t get the #1 spot back just because you won the rematch.

      If AJ doesn’t lose to Ruiz in the first fight he is still ranked #1.

      Wilder drawing, losing or winning had no bearing on the #1 ranking if AJ handles his business.
      If Fury was correctly given the win against Wilder would Wilder be ranked #1 right now? Answer the question honestly if you can.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        #2 lost. Ruiz got promoted to #1 after he beat Joshua, Joshua just beat the #1.

        At least know what you're talking about son.
        It doesn't work the way you want it. One sanctioning body just put Dubois at three...when did he beat a #3? Even the non-alphabet bodies have their own rankings and it's not simply you beat position X and get there.

        Joshua now has a loss and a recent one for that. He also wasn't that impressive in his last outing.

        And you must be freaking old to call me a son.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          If Fury was correctly given the win against Wilder would Wilder be ranked #1 right now? Answer the question honestly if you can.
          I would expect Fury to be #1 had he defeated wilder. He didn’t.

          They’d both still be above AJ because he quit rather than get ktfo by Ruiz.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Zelda
            It doesn't work the way you want it. One sanctioning body just put Dubois at three...when did he beat a #3? Even the non-alphabet bodies have their own rankings and it's not simply you beat position X and get there.

            Joshua now has a loss and a recent one for that. He also wasn't that impressive in his last outing.

            And you must be freaking old to call me a son.
            I'm going by the TBRB rankings not mine. Ruiz was ranked #1. SON

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              #86
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              I would expect Fury to be #1 had he defeated wilder. He didn’t.

              They’d both still be above AJ because he quit rather than get ktfo by Ruiz.
              He did defeat Wilder, Wilder is ranked incorrectly because of the robbery. As i have said. Thanks.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                He did defeat Wilder, Wilder is ranked incorrectly because of the robbery. As i have said. Thanks.
                No he didn't. The fight was a draw. In your opinion he beat Wilder but the TBRB doesn't rank based on your personal opinion. Wilder is ranked correctly, as is Fury, as is AJ.

                AJ losing created an opening at the top, which was filled by Wilder. Wilder has had a draw and 2 KO's since then. If you want to rank Fury #1 and Wilder #2, fine.

                AJ losing to an unranked fighter is why he dropped. Beating Ruiz after RUiz beat him only means Ruiz will drop behind him, it doesn't mean he AJ will be elevated ahead of Fury or Wilder.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  No he didn't. The fight was a draw. In your opinion he beat Wilder but the TBRB doesn't rank based on your personal opinion. Wilder is ranked correctly, as is Fury, as is AJ.

                  AJ losing created an opening at the top, which was filled by Wilder. Wilder has had a draw and 2 KO's since then. If you want to rank Fury #1 and Wilder #2, fine.

                  AJ losing to an unranked fighter is why he dropped. Beating Ruiz after RUiz beat him only means Ruiz will drop behind him, it doesn't mean he AJ will be elevated ahead of Fury or Wilder.
                  I'm talking to the 99% that saw a robbery not the biased 1% like you, but even you know he shouldn't be ranked so high with a loss. Thanks.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    I'm talking to the 99% that saw a robbery not the biased 1% like you, but even you know he shouldn't be ranked so high with a loss. Thanks.
                    My card was the same as the judge that gave the fight to Fury.

                    AJ lost against Ruiz. That is why he isn't ranked #1 now. Instead of whining and crying about your personal opinion about the Wilder/Fury score, talk about why AJ was moved out of the spot to begin with-because he quit.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      No he didn't. The fight was a draw. In your opinion he beat Wilder but the TBRB doesn't rank based on your personal opinion. Wilder is ranked correctly, as is Fury, as is AJ.

                      AJ losing created an opening at the top, which was filled by Wilder. Wilder has had a draw and 2 KO's since then. If you want to rank Fury #1 and Wilder #2, fine.

                      AJ losing to an unranked fighter is why he dropped. Beating Ruiz after RUiz beat him only means Ruiz will drop behind him, it doesn't mean he AJ will be elevated ahead of Fury or Wilder.
                      How are using the TBRB as a gage of rankings but don’t understand they ranked Ruiz number one when AJ defeated him so how did he beat an unranked fighter ? That’s really dumb .

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