Was Floyd a Cheater?

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  • daggum
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    #21
    Originally posted by turnedup
    That’s fine bro, I respect your opinion on it and won’t argue it. I did say it was jarring and weird.
    well at least you aren't like that other guy who pretends injecting 7.5 times the normal amount for severe dehydration is "mild dehydration" i wonder how many dogs he has killed...

    this is one of those things where you cant appeal to authority because the authority here(usada) has been captured and their motives and reasoning make absolutely no sense. essentially what they are saying is floyd didnt cheat because floyd was given a tue. why was he given it though....crickets. no rational reasons were given. no he was not dehydrated thats well documented on 24/7. even if he was he took 7.5 times as much IV fluid as a normal severely dehydrated person would need. it doesnt add up. then you add into it the massive payments floyd made to usada and how they are no longer trustworthy or used in boxing and i think you can form your own opinion on what went down.

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    • Roadblock
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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      adults should be given IV fluid at a rate of 30 ml/kg within 30 minutes, followed by 70 ml/kg in the next 2.5 hours, thus providing a total of 100 ml/kg in 3 hours.

      he took 7.5 times the normal rate for dehydration and in a much less time period. so what are you talking about?
      Its not adult child its weight , and the dose is a range of low med high depending on the severity.

      Dig deeper kid, your dose is generic BS.

      Top MMA nutritionist George Lockhart said while most UFC fighters use IV drips to rehydrate after weight cuts, it is not the be-all and end-all.

      “I would say about 99% of guys are using IVs. Honestly, I think its 100%, but there are always one or two guys who don’t. But as long as I’ve been in the game, everybody has used an IV,” he told Bloody Elbow.

      To rehydrate 10 pounds of fluids would take roughly five bags to reach that minimum threshold. Of course, no fighter is going to go without food and water at all post-weigh ins, but for those thinking that one bag of fluids is going to do the trick, some re-thinking may be in order.



      Read this and then tell me what 750 ml is going to do to 150lb male.'

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...40244019307741

      The reason MMA athletes have gravitated towards IV hydration is that they only have 24 hours before the fight, and with IVs in one to two hours they immediately feel better. When they feel better quicker, they have more time to mentally prepare instead of feeling terrible the day before sometimes the biggest fight of their careers. If you have never been severely dehydrated before, it’s an absolutely terrible and evil place. The dehydrated body lives in world similar to the body aches and lethargy of influenza, and the mind experiences the ripping headache/light sensitivity and inattentiveness of a proper hangover. Now imagine feeling this way the day before a fight.

      Last edited by Roadblock; 02-08-2020, 02:38 AM.

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #23
        Originally posted by Legends456
        So, my last thread seems to have opened up a can of worms...

        Let’s settle it.

        Was Floyd TMT Mayweather Jr. a cheater?

        Why is he guilty or vindicated in your eyes?






        of course not

        that nonsense came from ret4rded crybaby pacfans

        the one fanbase who should have the class and dignity to STFU about steroids LMAO

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        • Divine Hammer
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          #24
          yes absolutely

          - used a numbing agent on his brittle hands. this numbing agent is illegal everywhere except nevada. cheater.

          - had an abnormally low te ratio for his fight with victor ortiz. indicating drug use that he tried but failed to hide.

          - tried but failed to hide illegal use of IV before the pacquiao fight which is used to mask illegal substances in ur system. same technique Lance Armstrong did.

          - close friends with people who run trt clinics.

          so many red flags it's ridiculous. he is without a doubt an obvious cheater.

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          • hugh grant
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            #25
            For sure Floyd is a cheater as he didn't give rematch will all the controversy of fight.
            His legacy will suffer but Floyd weren't about legacy so not sure it matters too much

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            • Goldie
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              #26
              Originally posted by Legends456
              So, my last thread seems to have opened up a can of worms...

              Let’s settle it.

              Was Floyd TMT Mayweather Jr. a cheater?

              Why is he guilty or vindicated in your eyes?
              Another daily “Floyd has ruined my miserable life” thread. I love them, please keep them coming.

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              • ruedboy
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                #27
                Technically, Floyd cheated when he had the IV (because it's a banned procedure) but the retroactive TUE from USADA allowed him to avoid being sanctioned.
                So legally, Floyd is clean, but to lots of fans the IV situation doesn't pass the smell test.
                Until there is more information, most people will have doubts.

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                • Legends456
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Goldie
                  Another daily “Floyd has ruined my miserable life” thread. I love them, please keep them coming.
                  I don’t know what ridiculous you’re talking about. I like Floyd. I just thought I’d make an interesting conversation.

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                  • GhostofDempsey
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                    #29
                    In my opinion, he was. It will never be proven unless someone has some compelling evidence. But it serves him right since he was the one to started the Pacquiao accusations of PED use. Now he has to live with the speculation that he may have been cheating himself. Not that he cares.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #30
                      Nah, Floyd's whole career shows a man who can pretty much do what he wants in the ring. He's a very dominant champion with a lot of haters because he, on purpose, went the Mendoza way with his career. When he was PBF he used to try to act cute for the camera, no one liked him so he went with that instead. Floyd does himself no favors but instead tries to benefit from the publics inability to see him clearly.

                      I don't think either man will ever get the respect they deserve. People hardly even know who Daniel Mendoza is and quite a lot of people hate Floyd too much to even try to legitimately understand him as either a boxer or a promoter.

                      I think the easiest answer is the man is a talented prick.

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