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  • Roadblock
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    #51
    Originally posted by PAC-BOY
    Boss hell,,, he didnt wanna give 600k away. I dont care how much he has. Thats plain ****** if he did
    LOL he blows that on a night out for the boys.

    See the haters interpretation, I didnt say he wanted to give away 600k I said he could not be bothered with boiling it of and because he is boss he said to himself fck it just pay the price.

    Its not hard kid just engage some of your logical brain its over run with hate.

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      #52
      Originally posted by man down
      Yes that's why he got a TUE AFTER because he got caught.
      There was supposed to be NO IV use. Do you not understand that?

      No, UFC fights do not use IVs as USADA doesn't allow them.
      He got it issued after because the officials seen all proceedings and it was legit, just as the analogy I put up about passing a test in front of officials and given documents later because of clerical issues.

      Listen open your eyes, I said how prevalent iIV Fluid use was, you understand WAS is past tense, do you understand they nearly ALL used IVs in making weight.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        He got it issued after because the officials seen all proceedings and it was legit, just as the analogy I put up about passing a test in front of officials and given documents later because of clerical issues.

        Listen open your eyes, I said how prevalent iIV Fluid use was, you understand WAS is past tense, do you understand they nearly ALL used IVs in making weight.
        Yeah ok bud whatever you say. Like I said you will believe what you want.

        John Locher/Associated PressFloyd Mayweather Reportedly Took Banned IV Prior to Manny Pacquiao Fight

        TYLER CONWAY
        SEPTEMBER 09, 2015

        After all the*public and private allegations*about Manny Pacquiao's performance-enhancing drug use, it appears it was actually Floyd Mayweather Jr.*who may have been doping prior to their May bout.

        As highlighted in an expansive profile of boxing's PED issues,*Thomas Hauser*of SB Nation reported Mayweather received an illegal IV prior to the fight to help with dehydration.*The report states United States Anti-Doping Agency agents found evidence*of Mayweather using an IV on Friday, May 2, after weigh-ins, though the details behind the findings are still unclear.

        What is clear, however, is that Mayweather would be in violation*of World Anti-Doping Agency regulations, which do not allow for fighters to receive IV injections. Such injections could be used to mask other banned substances, such as performance-enhancing drugs. * **

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        Hauser reports Mayweather received an exception from the USADA, but his camp did not apply for the waiver until 18 days after the fight. That would mean it was neither in place nor applied for when Mayweather defeated Pacquiao via unanimous decision in one of the biggest bouts in boxing history.

        This report runs contrary to Mayweather's reputation as a clean fighter, and Hauser's piece details the cozy relationship between Mayweather Promotions and the USADA. Unlike public proclamations to the contrary, Mayweather doesn't seem subject to true 365-day testing. His camp and the USADA*allegedly come together before his fights and begin random testing programs at Mayweather's*discretion.*

        Mayweather denied the allegations against him in a statement on Sept. 10, via*BoxMadMagazine.com:

        As already confirmed by the USADA Statement, I did not commit any violations of the Nevada or USADA drug testing guidelines. I follow and have always followed the rules of Nevada and USADA, the gold standard of drug testing.*

        Let’s not forget that I was the one six years ago who insisted on elevating the level of drug testing for all my fights. As a result, there is more drug testing and awareness of its importance in the sport of boxing today than ever before.*

        *I am very proud to be a clean athlete and will continue to champion the cause.

        The USADA also denied the report in a*statement*on Thursday:*

        Although the articles in question contain a multitude of errors, all of which will be addressed at the appropriate time, we believe it is important to immediately correct the record regarding the false suggestion that Floyd Mayweather violated the rules by receiving an IV infusion of saline and vitamins.

        As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr.*Mayweather applied for and was granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him. Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules.

        However, Hauser responded to the denials with his own rebuttal, defending his story, via*BoxingScene.com:

        No amount of self-serving rhetoric from USADA can change the following unrebutted facts:

        (1) The IV was administered at Floyd Mayweather’s home after the weigh-in on May 1. USADA learned about the IV on that date.

        (2) The 2015 WADA “Prohibited Substances and Methods List” states, “Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period are prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations.”

        (3) The above-referenced prohibition is in effect at all times that the athlete is subject to testing. It exists because, in addition to being administered for the purpose of adding specific substances to a person’s body, an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future.

        (4) Mayweather-Pacquiao was contested on May 2.

        (5) Mayweather applied for a the****utic use exemption on May 19 (seventeen days after the fight).

        (6) USADA granted the the****utic use exemption on May 20 (eighteen days after the fight).

        (7) USADA did not notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission about the IV until May 21 (nineteen days after the fight).

        Meanwhile, on May 2 (fight night), Manny Pacquiao’s request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner.

        It would be helpful if Travis Tygart or his spokesperson answered the following questions directly:

        (1) What was the medical justification and supporting data that led to USADA granting the the****utic use exemption for an otherwise prohibited IV procedure?

        (2) On how many occasions has the “A” sample of a professional boxer tested by USADA come back positive for a prohibited substance?

        (3) What was the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for each urine test administered to Floyd Mayweather by USADA for each of his fights beginning with Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley up to and including Mayweather vs. Andre Berto?

        (4) Does USADA still maintain that it handled the Erik Morales matter correctly?
        Last edited by man down; 02-08-2020, 06:22 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by man down
          Yeah ok bud whatever you say. Like I said you will believe what you want.

          John Locher/Associated PressFloyd Mayweather Reportedly Took Banned IV Prior to Manny Pacquiao Fight

          TYLER CONWAY
          SEPTEMBER 09, 2015

          After all the*public and private allegations*about Manny Pacquiao's performance-enhancing drug use, it appears it was actually Floyd Mayweather Jr.*who may have been doping prior to their May bout.

          As highlighted in an expansive profile of boxing's PED issues,*Thomas Hauser*of SB Nation reported Mayweather received an illegal IV prior to the fight to help with dehydration.*The report states United States Anti-Doping Agency agents found evidence*of Mayweather using an IV on Friday, May 2, after weigh-ins, though the details behind the findings are still unclear.

          What is clear, however, is that Mayweather would be in violation*of World Anti-Doping Agency regulations, which do not allow for fighters to receive IV injections. Such injections could be used to mask other banned substances, such as performance-enhancing drugs. * **

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          Hauser reports Mayweather received an exception from the USADA, but his camp did not apply for the waiver until 18 days after the fight. That would mean it was neither in place nor applied for when Mayweather defeated Pacquiao via unanimous decision in one of the biggest bouts in boxing history.

          This report runs contrary to Mayweather's reputation as a clean fighter, and Hauser's piece details the cozy relationship between Mayweather Promotions and the USADA. Unlike public proclamations to the contrary, Mayweather doesn't seem subject to true 365-day testing. His camp and the USADA*allegedly come together before his fights and begin random testing programs at Mayweather's*discretion.*

          Mayweather denied the allegations against him in a statement on Sept. 10, via*BoxMadMagazine.com:

          As already confirmed by the USADA Statement, I did not commit any violations of the Nevada or USADA drug testing guidelines. I follow and have always followed the rules of Nevada and USADA, the gold standard of drug testing.*

          Let’s not forget that I was the one six years ago who insisted on elevating the level of drug testing for all my fights. As a result, there is more drug testing and awareness of its importance in the sport of boxing today than ever before.*

          *I am very proud to be a clean athlete and will continue to champion the cause.

          The USADA also denied the report in a*statement*on Thursday:*

          Although the articles in question contain a multitude of errors, all of which will be addressed at the appropriate time, we believe it is important to immediately correct the record regarding the false suggestion that Floyd Mayweather violated the rules by receiving an IV infusion of saline and vitamins.

          As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr.*Mayweather applied for and was granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him. Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules.

          However, Hauser responded to the denials with his own rebuttal, defending his story, via*BoxingScene.com:

          No amount of self-serving rhetoric from USADA can change the following unrebutted facts:

          (1) The IV was administered at Floyd Mayweather’s home after the weigh-in on May 1. USADA learned about the IV on that date.

          (2) The 2015 WADA “Prohibited Substances and Methods List” states, “Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period are prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations.”

          (3) The above-referenced prohibition is in effect at all times that the athlete is subject to testing. It exists because, in addition to being administered for the purpose of adding specific substances to a person’s body, an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future.

          (4) Mayweather-Pacquiao was contested on May 2.

          (5) Mayweather applied for a the****utic use exemption on May 19 (seventeen days after the fight).

          (6) USADA granted the the****utic use exemption on May 20 (eighteen days after the fight).

          (7) USADA did not notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission about the IV until May 21 (nineteen days after the fight).

          Meanwhile, on May 2 (fight night), Manny Pacquiao’s request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner.

          It would be helpful if Travis Tygart or his spokesperson answered the following questions directly:

          (1) What was the medical justification and supporting data that led to USADA granting the the****utic use exemption for an otherwise prohibited IV procedure?

          (2) On how many occasions has the “A” sample of a professional boxer tested by USADA come back positive for a prohibited substance?

          (3) What was the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for each urine test administered to Floyd Mayweather by USADA for each of his fights beginning with Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley up to and including Mayweather vs. Andre Berto?

          (4) Does USADA still maintain that it handled the Erik Morales matter correctly?
          As Ive said all along you know 1/2 the story, as a psychology test try and revoke your own evidence with opposing evidence and see what you come up with, its very hard to do because you want to be right first and foremost and that is a mental block to digesting the truth.

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          • man down
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            #55
            Originally posted by Roadblock
            As Ive said all along you know 1/2 the story, as a psychology test try and revoke your own evidence with opposing evidence and see what you come up with, its very hard to do because you want to be right first and foremost and that is a mental block to digesting the truth.
            I know half the story? Lol. Whatever dude. I'm done say what you want. Try using some common sense.

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            • PAC-BOY
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              #56
              Floyd Cheated.


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                #57
                Floyd was a rigged corrupt fraud. No one was allowed to beat the cash cow franchise of the american establishment. Floyd was the most protected counterfeit fighter of all time.

                The lil sob even confessed he is a coward.

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