Was Floyd a Cheater?

[Legends456]

So, my last thread seems to have opened up a can of worms...

Let’s settle it.

Was Floyd TMT Mayweather Jr. a cheater?

Why is he guilty or vindicated in your eyes?

[Young Money]

No, I heard it was Miss Jackson that was sneaking around with Nelly.

[Zaroku]

This has been going on for years, this topic, and I doubt you’ll help anyone resolve it either way.

[NORMNEALON]

Until they are convicted they are not cheaters in my eyes . Becusse Let's be real 90% of fighters are cheating in some form but I cant throw shade until they get caught . Did floyd do some shady AF stuff.....YES . But is he a blatant cheater ?? NO until proven otherwise . And that may be because of his money, yes , who knows . But without proof iam not gonna throw shade on guys legacies .

Heres some cheaters imho :

Resto
P.lewis
Margarito
Canelo
Whyte
Ortiz
Miller

To name a few . Hard to name guys where it hasnt been proven or is a grey area without looking like a hater etc . So I stay away from it . I could list ALOT of fighters I think are cheaters but that wouldnt be very productive becuase it's based off my opinion and I have no right to call that without proof .

[turnedup]

The Iv thing was pretty jarring imo. I think what makes it worse is that he always said he had no issues making 147 and folks always argued Floyd didn’t do weigh ins but was like three or four pounds heavier post weigh in so dehydrated was hard to argue. I mean without him failing a test it’s hard to call him a cheater. More so considering lately how many people defend failed tests and become overnight expert chemists and PED experts.

[Roadblock]

The Iv thing was pretty jarring imo. I think what makes it worse is that he always said he had no issues making 147 and folks always argued Floyd didn’t do weigh ins but was like three or four pounds heavier post weigh in so dehydrated was hard to argue. I mean without him failing a test it’s hard to call him a cheater. More so considering lately how many people defend failed tests and become overnight expert chemists and PED experts.

Not when you understand doses, Armstrong was given 2-3000 ml on consecutive days leading up to a test, Floyd was given 750ml that is less than Ive given a 60lb Greyhound .

On top of that Floyd was tested before and after the IV Fluids.

Athletes do dry out and they used to give IV fluids all the time if a guy was coming down on weight too fast, its very possible to request a small amount of Fluids and amino acids if he was dehydrating too fast.

Ive give Greyhound the same only a full bag 1000ml a few hours before a race because they traveled to excited and lost too much weight.

You guys are more hate driven that fact driven and Peds is the go too reason for all in this forum.

[daggum]

The Iv thing was pretty jarring imo. I think what makes it worse is that he always said he had no issues making 147 and folks always argued Floyd didn’t do weigh ins but was like three or four pounds heavier post weigh in so dehydrated was hard to argue. I mean without him failing a test it’s hard to call him a cheater. More so considering lately how many people defend failed tests and become overnight expert chemists and PED experts.

in the world of Ped detection not taking a test/flushing your system have always carried with it the same consequences as failing a test. he literally did the same thin many many others have been caught doing. the only difference was the response, not the action. the reason he needed the iv? "physical ailment" what does that even mean? he wasn't drained. thats well documented. were his kidneys failing or something i mean thats actually more impressive if they were. i have yet to see a legit reason why he would need that iv. usada provided no such evidence and they were the ones that gave it to him. looks like a clear cut case of regulatory capture.

[daggum]

Not when you understand doses, Armstrong was given 2-3000 ml on consecutive days leading up to a test, Floyd was given 750ml that is less than Ive given a 60lb Greyhound .

On top of that Floyd was tested before and after the IV Fluids.

Athletes do dry out and they used to give IV fluids all the time if a guy was coming down on weight too fast, its very possible to request a small amount of Fluids and amino acids if he was dehydrating too fast.

Ive give Greyhound the same only a full bag 1000ml a few hours before a race because they traveled to excited and lost too much weight.

You guys are more hate driven that fact driven and Peds is the go too reason for all in this forum.

not extensively. did you read the hauser article? they wouldn't have caught any of the ped's just from the piss tests he took. he flushed the rest to pass the post fight test.

[turnedup]

Not when you understand doses, Armstrong was given 2-3000 ml on consecutive days leading up to a test, Floyd was given 750ml that is less than Ive given a 60lb Greyhound .

On top of that Floyd was tested before and after the IV Fluids.

Athletes do dry out and they used to give IV fluids all the time if a guy was coming down on weight too fast, its very possible to request a small amount of Fluids and amino acids if he was dehydrating too fast.

Ive give Greyhound the same only a full bag 1000ml a few hours before a race because they traveled to excited and lost too much weight.

You guys are more hate driven that fact driven and Peds is the go too reason for all in this forum.

Dude..hate? You may want to go reread what the fk I wrote. I haven’t called him a cheater dude..not anywhere did I. Either calm down; sober up, read slower, or have someone explain it to you. I haven’t accused him of anything.

[turnedup]

in the world of Ped detection not taking a test/flushing your system have always carried with it the same consequences as failing a test. he literally did the same thin many many others have been caught doing. the only difference was the response, not the action. the reason he needed the iv? "physical ailment" what does that even mean? he wasn't drained. thats well documented. were his kidneys failing or something i mean thats actually more impressive if they were. i have yet to see a legit reason why he would need that iv. usada provided no such evidence and they were the ones that gave it to him. looks like a clear cut case of regulatory capture.

I’ll say it again, unless you fail an actual test it’s hard to accuse the man. Was it strange? Yeah. Was filing for a tue the way he did weird? Yes. But without a full explanation it’s hard to just call him a cheat outright.