Oscar calls out PBC

[The Big Dunn]

So you just proved my point. What about all the Afro Americans that are making the exact claims I'm making? Are they anti black racists too? Or is it OK for them to say these things because of the colour of their skin? Maybe you need to sit back and consider if you are the racist one.

See what you're doing here?

Rather than answer my question directly, you're responding by answering a question about black people that you feel do the same thing you do, just towards the companies not owned by a black man.

In your question, you imply they are racists for doing that, but that somehow they are getting a pass for it because they are black. This claim is untrue because you and others have been alleging they are racists.

If you feel black posters that hold white owned companies to a different standard are racists, then you have to understand why you and those like you have been labeled racists.

[DaNeutral.]

huh? Clearly you didn't think about it.

If you held each group equally accountable you wouldn't have so many posters making allegations of racism. For example, in this post you hold PBC to a different standard and make them the scapegoat for everything.

When you do this, even unintentionally, you shouldn't be surprised when posters allege racism.

I said they were all shady. But i also said the PBC have taken this to a whole new level of shadiness. There are plenty of African Americans saying the exact same things im saying. Are they white racists too? Why can they say it and not be racist but if i say it im racist?

You keep going around calling us all racists. You sure its not you thats the racist one here? I NEVER bring colour up. You do, all the time.

[The Big Dunn]

No one denies that Oscar is indeed a **** up. I think people are more concerned with fights not happening than Oscar's many problems.

I don't believe that. I use as an example the situation at DAZN with GGG and Andrade.

I was surprised by the lack of backlash when they made the 2 separate fights for each rather than the unification fight. There wasn't much complaint from anyone. Yet when Charlo refused to fight Andrade there was outrage.

I think many posters make a huge issue when PBC is at fault for not making fights, but do not create as many threads or post in volume when one of the other promotional outfits doesn't make fights.

Would you agree?

[DaNeutral.]

See what you're doing here?

Rather than answer my question directly, you're responding by answering a question about black people that you feel do the same thing you do, just towards the companies not owned by a black man.

In your question, you imply they are racists for doing that, but that somehow they are getting a pass for it because they are black. This claim is untrue because you and others have been alleging they are racists.

If you feel black posters that hold white owned companies to a different standard are racists, then you have to understand why you and those like you have been labeled racists.

No these Afro AMERICANS, not black people, Afro AMERICANS are saying the same things im saying about the PBC. And ive told you i dont hold all promoters equally accountable cuz the PBC taking to a whole new unacceptable level. Which is why they getting so much hate.

I havnt been alluding to anybody being racist. It is you that is outright calling us all racist. My point being there are plenty of African Americans going in hard on the PBC right now cuz they are pig sick of how they are handling their business right now. Just like i am.

Are these African Americans who have a problem with the PBC white racists? Cuz these guys saying the exact same thing as i am and for the exact same reasons.

I think you must be racist. You cant wait to bring race up where as i couldnt care less about race, im about Boxing and if i see serious shadiness im going to speak on it. Im not going to hold back cuz somebody is a black man cuz i dont care what colour they are.

Its all become clear, you are a racist. You cant wait to bring up race even when there is no link to race in an argument. And your hobby seems to be accusing white people of being racist.

[The Big Dunn]

I said they were all shady. But i also said the PBC have taken this to a whole new level of shadiness. There are plenty of African Americans saying the exact same things im saying. Are they white racists too? Why can they say it and not be racist but if i say it im racist?

You keep going around calling us all racists. You sure its not you thats the racist one here? I NEVER bring colour up. You do, all the time.

As I pointed out to you, claiming PBC is a "whole new level" is a little bit much. You also called is a "cult", which black posters don't do and a claim you haven't levied against any other group.

Which is why I asked you to think about it.

In you case dude, you align yourself with posters like Young Bidness and others that have been routinely banned for racism.

I have made a point in 2020 not to call you a racist or label groups racist. I have also made it a point to try and have discussion.

Racism isn't just about bringing up color. You know this so I am confused as to why you keep repeating it.

Coded language like "the demographic", calling the people that support PBC "cultists" and implying they are all black, mocking black language when posting (finna, gunna, dindu), and blaming all the ills on the sport on the one black owned companies are examples of racism without necessarily bringing up color.

Again, think about it.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Says he wants to see PBC work with other promoters for once and also mentions that he offered Charlo a ton of money and PBC turned it down.

I think every promoter has called out PBC for refusing to work with others at this point.

I’m really starting to think they’re the only reason we don’t get the fights we want.

Arum, Hearn, Oscar etc are just as bad. Any promoters will work together if it makes sense. Look at Wilder-Fury, May-Pac etc

[Idunnoshet]

When all else fails Accuse someone of Racism ?

[The Big Dunn]

No these Afro AMERICANS, not black people, Afro AMERICANS are saying the same things im saying about the PBC. And ive told you i dont hold all promoters equally accountable cuz the PBC taking to a whole new unacceptable level. Which is why they getting so much hate.

I havnt been alluding to anybody being racist. It is you that is outright calling us all racist. My point being there are plenty of African Americans going in hard on the PBC right now cuz they are pig sick of how they are handling their business right now. Just like i am.

Are these African Americans who have a problem with the PBC white racists? Cuz these guys saying the exact same thing as i am and for the exact same reasons.

I think you must be racist. You cant wait to bring race up where as i couldnt care less about race, im about Boxing and if i see serious shadiness im going to speak on it. Im not going to hold back cuz somebody is a black man cuz i dont care what colour they are.

Its all become clear, you are a racist. You cant wait to bring up race even when there is no link to race in an argument. And your hobby seems to be accusing white people of being racist.

I don't know that they are saying these things for the exact same reason. You have always wanted PBC out of boxing. You wanted this before they showed any issues. So yeah, your motivation is fairly questioned.

Also, and this is a point you need to really ponder, you have openly supported dazn very loudly but you don't have the app at the expense of PBC. SO it is not fair for you to claim you and these unnamed African Americans are pointing out pbc's flaws for the same reason. They may want PBC to get better, you don't want PBC to exist.

Pointing the finger at me doesn't strengthen your argument. You claim you care about boxing but you don't have a reputation on NSB for posting about boxing. Rather, you are seen as a pro DAZN, anti PBC poster. Now how did you get that reputation?

I didn't accuse you of being a racist when I responded to you today. I posted about why so many other posters label you that way after reading your posts.

[DaNeutral.]

]I don't know that they are saying these things for the exact same reason[/B]. You have always wanted PBC out of boxing. You wanted this before they showed any issues. So yeah, your motivation is fairly questioned.

Also, and this is a point you need to really ponder, you have openly supported dazn very loudly but you don't have the app at the expense of PBC. SO it is not fair for you to claim you and these unnamed African Americans are pointing out pbc's flaws for the same reason. They may want PBC to get better, you don't want PBC to exist.

Pointing the finger at me doesn't strengthen your argument. You claim you care about boxing but you don't have a reputation on NSB for posting about boxing. Rather, you are seen as a pro DAZN, anti PBC poster. Now how did you get that reputation?

I didn't accuse you of being a racist when I responded to you today. I posted about why so many other posters label you that way after reading your posts.

WOW. We will end it there then. They are saying the EXACT SAME THINGS as me but you guna seperate what they say and what i say because even though its the same complaints about the same things you claim i am saying them for different reasons. LOLOLOLOLOL.

Forget it mate. Wasting my time, We aint going to get anywhere like this, you may as well just of said Afro Americans say it for their reasons but i say the same things cuz i may be a racist. LOLOL. Just go back to calling me a white supremacist its easier all round.

[champion4ever]

You still haven’t learned the game by now?

"Haymon is just an insecure racist prick.

Well, I can somewhat agree with this statement. It's a known fact, that Haymon is willing to allow his White, Asian and Latino fighters the freedom to sign with other promoters by leaving them unprotected.

However, he is extremely possessive and protective of his chocolate ones. He'll never let them go under any circumstances. He would hold on for dear life just to keep them in his stable at all costs; Which is why Lou Dibella no longer works for him.