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  • SplitSecond
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    #41
    Why wasn’t Pac-Floyd 50/50?(actually what was it, I don’t remember)

    Was it because Pacquiao got KO’d. Or because his numbers were now not even breaking 1mil?

    Wilder doesn’t deserve 50/50. People think it’s what should happen because it’s likely what it will take to make the fight. There numbers are not even as close as Pac and Floyd though, and everyone and their mother’s wanted that fight, even after it’s expiry date.

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      #42
      Originally posted by ReggieKray
      50-50 probably doesn't make sense, but 70-30 is just plain ducking. A Lineal Unification between #1 and #2 is at least 60-40 and should probably be 55-45. If Canelo can do 50-50, 55-45, then so can Joshua if he's not just cold ducking.
      It wouldn’t actually matter , Wilder was offered over 100 million in revenue . He cannot make anywhere near that with any split in other fights .

      Fury didn’t even want a percentage he wanted a flat fee and still went for less money against Wilder .


      Thirty percent on a 200 million fight is 60 million on one fight . Assuming it’s 200 million in 2020 / 2021 which it can generate . Wilder was basically offered that and turned it down on a 2 fight guaranteed contract with AJ ,rematch included which amounted to 100 million , 120 if you count Breazeale . Wilder is not needed really because AJ takes the lions share in other fights that generates less and still can do more ,look at the Ruiz fight. Wilder can claim slave wagers but he is only fooling uneducated people.
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-26-2020, 09:15 AM.

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      • DaNeutral.
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        #43
        Originally posted by Vinnykin
        From his own mouth, he wants Wilder, then Joshua and Whyte.

        Certainly I would like to see that fight, undisputed, I believe Fury beats Joshua badly. Don't see how I am not keeping my story straight..... I have always wanted that fight.

        Talking about negotiations for that fight, certainly Joshua needs to give 50% to the #1 WBC, ring and lineal champion lol and needs that fight more than Fury does.
        That equates to 1 belt. Joshua has 4. Ring and Lineal are not real and dont mean jack sheet when it comes to undisputed. Nice to have no doubt but means very little. Half the people dont even believe Fury is Lineal and there is nothing to show for it anyway. Ive never seen it around his waist.

        I just find it funny that you think Fury should deny Joshua a fight until he over pays him and thats fine but if Joshua dont wana over pay him hes a **** and a ducker.

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          #44
          Wilder doesn’t deserve 50% based on the numbers. Wilder however is an American. The fight generates significantly more revenue if held in the USA, especially Las Vegas.

          As such, wilder will request a 50/50 split because eventually AJ will lose credibility if he keeps beating up European bums and dishwashers.

          He will make a ton of money for sure, but he will end up as the least respected hwt champion ever.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            That equates to 1 belt. Joshua has 4. Ring and Lineal are not real and dont mean jack sheet when it comes to undisputed. Nice to have no doubt but means very little. Half the people dont even believe Fury is Lineal and there is nothing to show for it anyway. Ive never seen it around his waist.

            I just find it funny that you think Fury should deny Joshua a fight until he over pays him and thats fine but if Joshua dont wana over pay him hes a **** and a ducker.
            Joshua's belts mean squat after he was humiliated.... winning them back means nothing against an out-of-shape Ruiz.

            #1 and #2 fighting means ring belt reunited with lineal.... WBC, ring and lineal (whether you believe it or not, lineal will gain more weight after beating the #2 guy).... the ring belt is certainly real I have seen it lol

            You can keep crying on here all day about the fact that Joshua has to cough up for the chance to fight the top guy in the division..... and the fact the unified champion is #3 after his humiliating quit job.

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              #46
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              Does it even matter at this point because both fighters are freezing AJ out anyway? Neither fighter has expressed an interest in fighting him next. So what Anthony Joshua is saying now about a potential bout with either of them is both futile and irrelevant.
              Fury plans on fighting Joshua when he’s done with Wilder. Where did you get this idea?

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                #47
                Does it even matter at this point because both fighters are freezing AJ out anyway? Neither fighter has expressed an interest in fighting him next.

                So what Anthony Joshua is saying now about a potential bout with either of them is both futile and irrelevant.

                For example if Deontay Wilder defeats Tyson Fury then his next bout would be against Adam Kownacki anyhow. Shelly Finkel and Team Wilder are not prepared to fight Anthony Joshua at this time; Perhaps in 2021 they will.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  Fury plans on fighting Joshua when he’s done with Wilder. Where did you get this idea?
                  At this point, the talks are all preliminary. Until the contracts are signed then these talks are irrelevant.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    Does it even matter at this point because both fighters are freezing AJ out anyway? Neither fighter has expressed an interest in fighting him next.

                    So what Anthony Joshua is saying now about a potential bout with either of them is both futile and irrelevant.

                    For example if Deontay Wilder defeats Tyson Fury then his next bout would be against Adam Kownacki anyhow. Shelly Finkel and Team Wilder are not prepared to fight Anthony Joshua at this time; Perhaps in 2021 they will.
                    That’s lie .

                    Wilder xxx
                    Joshua for undisputed

                    Are Furys next opponents .

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      At this point, the talks are all preliminary. Until the contracts are signed then these talks are irrelevant.
                      Fury doesn’t have years left in his career. And I doubt TR doesn’t know that and wouldn’t want to tap into that Joshua-Fury UK money-well, especially considering Fury’s supposed chances. With Wilder and PBC it makes sense with their whole monopoly plan. With Fury it makes no sense.

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