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  • DaNeutral.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    50% against the winner makes Joshua more money than any other fight.

    No point in arguing over splits and money, this has been going on for years. You don't think Wilder or Fury are worth it.... I believe everyone makes money and the fans win, no one is getting shafted, everyone makes loads of cash.

    No point in crying over 10% either way, they all make more money than any other fight they can make.
    30, 35, 40% Earns Wilder or Fury more money than any other fight. How are we sure that 50% of a fight in America makes Joshua any more money than he earnt in his last fight?

    50 50 is a bigger financial win for Wilder or Fury than it would be for Joshua. How is that fair? You want Joshua to give up his A side status, his Cash Cow status to make these fights. How about asking Wilder or Fury to be more financial realistic.

    Giving 50-50 to those guys nets them a bigger profit by their standards than it does Joshua. How is that fair to Joshua?

    Like i said Joshua may have to give 50-50 to get these fights made but his question is how is that fair to him?

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #12
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Does anybody know the answer to it?

      The question was what makes Wilder or Fury worth a 50-50 split against Joshua. Joshua knows hes the sports cash cow right now, he knows his numbers are dwarfing the likes of Wilder, Fury or any Heavy in the division, or any Boxer from any division apart from Canelo. He understands that he may have to dish out 50-50 to get these fights but he cant figure out why some people think both those guys are deserving or worth 50%

      The stats, the facts and the figures show us that Joshua is the 2nd biggest cash cow in the sport behind Canelo. Those 2 are fighting on a whole higher level than any other fighter in the sport. Canelo isnt dishing out 50-50 to anybody and nobody is even complaining about it. Nobody complained when Money Floyd wasnt giving 50-50 in any of his fights when he was the cash cow either. I can go on and name cash cow after cash cow never giving 50-50 to their opposition.

      So can anybody tell Anthony Joshua why he should be giving 50-50 to Wilder whose last fight bombed big time, Or Fury whose numbers were even worse than Wilders?
      - -Actually fans were complaining TUE 51-0 was not only fighting TBAs, but also taking 90-95% of the purse.

      AJ don't have to fight the Deyonce/Fury clown show. He's already HOF worthy.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #13
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        30, 35, 40% Earns Wilder or Fury more money than any other fight. How are we sure that 50% of a fight in America makes Joshua any more money than he earnt in his last fight?

        50 50 is a bigger financial win for Wilder or Fury than it would be for Joshua. How is that fair? You want Joshua to give up his A side status, his Cash Cow status to make these fights. How about asking Wilder or Fury to be more financial realistic.

        Giving 50-50 to those guys nets them a bigger profit by their standards than it does Joshua. How is that fair to Joshua?

        Like i said Joshua may have to give 50-50 to get these fights made but his question is how is that fair to him?
        I don't really care to be honest...... life is not fair, maybe you will realise that some day.

        I could talk about Fury and Wilder hating Hearn and Joshua and being unreasonable with demands...... but the winner of that fight is #1 WBC, ring and lineal champion.

        If Joshua, despite being the cash cow, wants to fight the winner... he needs to cough up.... and that's the end of it really.

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          #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          - -Actually fans were complaining TUE 51-0 was not only fighting TBAs, but also taking 90-95% of the purse.

          AJ don't have to fight the Deyonce/Fury clown show. He's already HOF worthy.
          So the #1 vs #2 of the division fighting in a rematch is a "clown show".

          I'll tell you what's more of a clown show..... Joshua/Ruiz 2 in Saudi, and the upcoming Joshua/Pulev fight.

          That's the real sideshow while the top guys are fighting each other.

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            #15
            Yeah I saw an interview on YouTube and they were talking about splits, and the interviewer was saying that because AJ had lost a fight,,,,****** logic..

            the moment you talk splits, there are only two things which come into the equation... 1) what value do you bring to the table? 2) what value i have without you?

            AJ is the biggest star in boxing without a shadow of a doubt, Canelo is nowhere near money generation..


            AJ vs anybody = $50 million+ for AJ

            Wilder vs anybody = $5 million..

            AJ vs Wilder/Fury = $ maybe $100m bid from a rich country/sponsor .... so if AJ can fight anybody and get $50m at home, then why would he go 50/50 and still only get $50m??

            Makes zero sense.. ...

            In normal circumstances boxers would keep fighting anybody (like what Wilder has been doing) for their standard ca$h ... but AJ actually wants to fight these guys...

            AJ has all the POWER, i think he is actually not being a bully enough financially...if their is a bid from Saudi/others, he should aim for something like 70/30, maybe max 65/35 to be generous.
            Last edited by moochi; 01-26-2020, 07:37 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.
              ...

              The stats, the facts and the figures show us that Joshua is the 2nd biggest cash cow in the sport behind Canelo. (...)
              ... AJ earned above £50m in his last fight... (i.e. about $65,370,700... about twice Canelo makes in 2 fights...)

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                #17
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                Very true. Unless the PBC are willing to cough up a massive guarantee for Joshua to fight on their network there is no way this fight is happening. This is beyond the fighters this is about Finkel and Haymon. They are not prepared to allow Wilder off their network but are not prepared to cough up like DAZN and Sky are willing to cough up. So we are left with Finkel and Haymon talking Wilder out of taking any fights offers from Joshua.
                Even if you offered 50% to Wilder he won’t take it , AJ knows this by now anyway ,posters think simple statements go back and forth on social media ,they don’t realize it’s a business and the amount of time team Joshua has put into trying to get the Wilder fight.

                At this point it’s time to walk away and tell Wilder he’s not getting 50% now and let Fury do him in and go from there .


                AJ might give Fury 50% but that’s going to include beating Wilder twice from this point , unless Fury steps up and goes for undisputed after February .

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  ... AJ earned above £50m in his last fight... (i.e. about $65,370,700... about twice Canelo makes in 2 fights...)
                  Yes and that was actually paid for by very rich people, meaning nobody lost money...

                  Canelo getting peach dollars and DAZN losing money from him..

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin
                    So the #1 vs #2 of the division fighting in a rematch is a "clown show".

                    I'll tell you what's more of a clown show..... Joshua/Ruiz 2 in Saudi, and the upcoming Joshua/Pulev fight.

                    That's the real sideshow while the top guys are fighting each other.
                    - -Fury didn't used to be a sissy, but he bailed on the Wlad rematch and ain't been right since.

                    Deyonce always been a sissy.

                    Hey, U wanna be a sissy loving Sissyboys, it's ok, but AJ the record setting Man, not U sissies.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      ... AJ earned above £50m in his last fight... (i.e. about $65,370,700... about twice Canelo makes in 2 fights...)
                      Originally posted by moochi
                      Yes and that was actually paid for by very rich people, meaning nobody lost money...

                      Canelo getting peach dollars and DAZN losing money from him..
                      ... nice: now it goes to the "source" of money, right?... and how all the money comes from over-exploited very poor people of the world, right?...

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