Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz, Manny Robles Part Ways - Trainer is Not Surprised

[Christhenatural]

Ruiz Jr is just a one hit wonder and does not have what it takes to stay a champion. Anybody who knows this sport could see that. Joshua would beat Ruiz again and again and again. We will likely never hear from the fat Mexican again. He's rich now.

[kafkod]

Of all people that deserve to be fired Andy Ruiz trainer is at the top of the list. The shape he came in for the 2 AJ fights was an embarrassment to the sport. I understand not every athlete has a statuesque figure but Ruiz looked like he had barely trialed.

Ruiz wouldn't listen to his father or to Robles when they told him he needed to stop partying and start training for the rematch. You can't blame the trainer if the fighter won't show up and train.

[The Big Dunn]

Ruiz wouldn't listen to his father or to Robles when they told him he needed to stop partying and start training for the rematch. You can't blame the trainer if the fighter won't show up and train.

Boxing is an outcome driven sport. The outcome of Ruiz training camp, i.e Ruiz' physical appearance, tells me the trainer should be fired. Clearly he wasn't getting his message across.

[famicommander]

Boxing is an outcome driven sport. The outcome of Ruiz training camp, i.e Ruiz' physical appearance, tells me the trainer should be fired. Clearly he wasn't getting his message across.

Doesn't matter who your trainer is if you ignore everything he says and party instead.

Robles was a good enough trainer to get him the belts in the first place.

[aaronbnb]

It does not matter who trains Ruiz until he gets a psychiatrist.

Doubt he will do that. Fine to replace the guy but call him yourself. That is low character.

[PAC-BOY]

Of all people that deserve to be fired Andy Ruiz trainer is at the top of the list. The shape he came in for the 2 AJ fights was an embarrassment to the sport. I understand not every athlete has a statuesque figure but Ruiz looked like he had barely trialed.

Did you think that the first fight? No. Andy is a professional. Not new to this. Not much a trainer can do if the fighter wont listen and thinks hes bigger than he is.

Trainer was there when he Kod AJ. Firing him after his own loss is another attempt to save his face. The Fat *** could have took it serious. He knew. Plus his head trainer had little to do with his strength and conditioning coach that he supposed to have hired. He can fire his whole team and still be a disgrace to the sport.

[PAC-BOY]

Doesn't matter who your trainer is if you ignore everything he says and party instead.

Robles was a good enough trainer to get him the belts in the first place.

Exactly....

[PAC-BOY]

Boxing is an outcome driven sport. The outcome of Ruiz training camp, i.e Ruiz' physical appearance, tells me the trainer should be fired. Clearly he wasn't getting his message across.

he knew.

[Rip Chudd]

haymon forcing guys to change trainers wtf. robles is 0% to blame for the loss and deserves a lot credit for training him to win the first fight, pbc screwing him over

I'm sure his management see it as if the trainer is being walked over and just sitting back cause his guy doesn't feel like training that maybe they should change it for more of a disciplinarian. I hear Kevin Cunningham is one of those no nonsense type guys and will drop fighter if they aren't dedicated

[deanrw]

The scapegoating continues.

Ruiz may have came in heavier but this is a man who has been competing heavy his entire life. Even if he came in at the weight he did for June he was always going to have the trouble closing the gap if AJ boxed and moved. This is what lots of us was saying for months about this rematch and it's exactly how it played out. If AJ stood there and traded it may have been the same outcome but AJ's not silly enough to make the same mistake twice.

Keep talking about the partying though. Ruiz and his team knew what AJ would do and couldn't prepare fully for it, just hoping AJ would abandon his game plan and stand there to trade.

You hit the nail on the head. Ruiz will always fair well in slugfests, but he simply is not mobile on his feet to deal with movement. Being lighter would help him some, but every fighter has some non-fixable limitations and his is foot speed on top of his obvious lack of discipline.