Fury: separating fact from fiction

[Richard]

And as a Christian myself, I also appreciate that he speaks well of Jesus Christ.

Whatever happens in the rest of his boxing career, I hope he manages to stay in a good place mentally and have a long, full life with his family and good physical health as well.

Thanks again for your great contributions to this thread — cheers.

Pleased to hear that your a Christian.

Yes I wish Fury all the best as well and hope he can keep on the straight and narrow.It isnt easy in this corrupt world and we will all stumble from time to time hence all of us are sinners.Key is though as Fury says is try to get back up and keep fighting.

God bless you.

[Legends456]

I think Wilder catches him early this time. Paws behind the jab, stays patient, and most importantly, Fury can't get in his head like the 1st fight.
If the rematch was immediate, I would say Fury.
The Wilder I saw vs Brazeale and Ortiz was much more relaxed and focused.
This is Wilder's shot at lineal, Ring, and breaking another record.
Fury has too many distractions this time but the man is just bringing multiple revenue streams to feed his family.
Respect to both guys!!!
And great thread brother!!

Thank you very much — I appreciate it!

Yes, I know I call out both guys for their bs on here at times, but I’ve got quite a lot of respect for them both as individuals. Wilder for his focus on his career and all he’s done for his daughter, which is what a true man should. Fury for overcoming the odds with mental illness and for the humility to give credit where credit is due (ie, those who didn’t give up on him, as well as his faith in God, IMO).

I agree with you that Wilder looks the better of the two right now. Personally, I see him peaking over the next couple years and then I imagine Usyk or a matured Dubois will solve him like a Rubik’s cube, but until then, he could definitely rule the HW division for a couple years before that happens. Don’t see any real threats to him right now, as I don’t think Joshua can beat him after what happened with Ruiz.

It’s an exciting time to be a boxing fan, especially for American fans with Wilder. We haven’t had someone like him since the early 90’s

[Legends456]

Pleased to hear that your a Christian.

Yes I wish Fury all the best as well and hope he can keep on the straight and narrow.It isnt easy in this corrupt world and we will all stumble from time to time hence all of us are sinners.Key is though as Fury says is try to get back up and keep fighting.

God bless you.

Very true! It’s the same for all of us.
God bless you as well.

[soul_survivor]

Yeah, that’s true — he said in his own words before the first fight that he was going to “knock [Wilder] the {truck} out” he always says that and he never really knocks people out except for those slapping barrages that leave them cut up and unable to answer, and the ref waves it off. Not exactly my first thought when I think of a knockout artist...

He isn't a KO artist in any way, shape or form haha

[YoungManRumble]

First of all, do you think that Fury really is not taking any shots in sparring to the face and head? I know he had a deep cut and everything, but it just seems like only taking shots to the body will not prepare him enough for a fight with Wilder, who is almost exclusively a head-hunting KO artist, and a very talented one at that.

You can't really train your head to take punishment like you can your body. It would just be counter intuitive and leave you more brain dead or concussed going into a fight from sparring wars. His whole style is about not getting hit anyway so it shouldn't have any major negative effect. If he could get up the first time maybe he can get up again if he gets caught. Maybe not though. That's whats so intriguing about it all.

[QueensburyRules]

Yeah, that’s true — he said in his own words before the first fight that he was going to “knock [Wilder] the {truck} out” he always says that and he never really knocks people out except for those slapping barrages that leave them cut up and unable to answer, and the ref waves it off. Not exactly my first thought when I think of a knockout artist...

- -Chisora tougher and more difficult than Deyonce, and he brutalized him in their stoppage rematch and remains the only fighter to KO USS Cunningham.

What Fury does is literally work himself up in the prefight with a lot of gibberish that infuriates fans and opponents such that he's 100% switched on.

That KD by USS was as hard as anything Deyonce landed on him.

[PRINCEKOOL]

At elite level Tyson Fury has been a one trick pony thus-far in his career, in order to defeat Deontay Wilder? He needs to implement a new trick etc Tyson Fury is aware of this, which is why he has been influenced to change his boxing trainer.

I think the fight is 45/55 in Deontay Wilder's favor.

Note: I am pretty neutral on the fight, and have no real investment on ether fighter winning.

[Toffee]

You're over thinking it. If Fury talks it's 50% untrue at a minimum. He doesn't worry about whether it's real or not - neither should you.

He keeps everyone guessing. You're just better off ignoring whatever he says.

[TMLT87]

Its probably just him hyping up the fight. But he really should try and get Wilder out of there. No matter how defensive minded Fury tries to be, the odds of Wilder landing heavy if given a full 36 minutes are very decent, especially if hes given no reason to worry about potential return fire while hes looking for the shot. I think Fury is capable of stopping him if he fights a perfect fight, but it would probably take round after round of systematic punishment with rd7/8 being the earliest I could see Wilder being ready to go.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

OP’s observations on how Wilder can’t fight when you walk into him sound familiar. Oh yeah, I made that observation yesterday in the boxing history forum. Made it in a Marciano thread (OP’s fav fighter.) What a coincidence!