Have you ever agreed with a fighter ducking someone?

[Ray*]

are you talking about bradley fighting casamayor instead of khan? that was the first fight on his top rank deal. the top rank deal guaranteed him a pac fight. why would he fight khan if he knows hes guaranteed a pac fight? sure he could have fought khan and then pac if he won but thats not ducking and that pac fight isnt guaranteed to happen even if he won. its taking the guaranteed big money better fight. its like when baseball players sign 300 million 10 year deals. hey they could sign a one year 40 million dollar deal, thats better pro rated! cept almost no one actually does that because you take the big money when its there because you never know when it could vanish. bradley took the big fight when it was there

Yes am talking about Bradley fighting Casamayor instead of Khan.

[Ray*]

Twisting it? There's nothing to twist. Whyte turned down a WBC mando fight to get to fight Wilder. That's f#cking the whole "twist". Ain't no offer from Ortiz's team if Whyte doesn't accept the WBC mando. It's a whole you get x days to figure it out or we go to a purse bid on x date thing.

Yes you are twisting it. Show us where the WBC said the Whyte/Ortiz winner = Immediate mandatory. Because the basic of Whyte not accepting that fight is due to your answer. You are twisting it. So show us how the winner is the mandatory.

If not then you are a liar. Because I can show you that the winner isn’t going to be the mandatory. The winner would be the “Secondary mandatory” which would still be where we are right now with the protection the WBC was affording Team Wilder.

You lot can bury your heads in the sand and pretend like the WBC were not shady in that instance because the boxer that is involved is called Wilder, but any knowledgeable fan knows they were doing anything and everything to delay whyte from getting his shot.

So please show or where it says Whyte would become the mandatory if he fights and beats Ortiz.

[Eff Pandas]

Yes you are twisting it. Show us where the WBC said the Whyte/Ortiz winner = Immediate mandatory. Because the basic of Whyte not accepting that fight is due to your answer. You are twisting it. So show us how the winner is the mandatory.

If not then you are a liar. Because I can show you that the winner isn’t going to be the mandatory. The winner would be the “Secondary mandatory” which would still be where we are right now with the protection the WBC was affording Team Wilder.

You lot can bury your heads in the sand and pretend like the WBC were not shady in that instance because the boxer that is involved is called Wilder, but any knowledgeable fan knows they were doing anything and everything to delay whyte from getting his shot.

So please show or where it says Whyte would become the mandatory if he fights and beats Ortiz.

Show me where an ABC group definitely said any fight is gonna happen if you win a mando fight.

Point remains unless you are a Whyte fanboy that this cat turned down a mando & didnt get the title fight he wanted & now when he finally did he gets it. Dude is the mando now. Say this that or w/e thats what did happen to not get him.a title shot & this is what happened to get him finally lined up with a title shot.

And sh^t I don't even fault him. Ortiz is no joke & likely woulda outboxed him unless Whyte pulled a Wilder & KO'd him late. Fighting that younger less proven, less boogieman guy for a mando fight was a much better opportunity.

[Ray*]

Show me where an ABC group definitely said any fight is gonna happen if you win a mando fight.

Point remains unless you are a Whyte fanboy that this cat turned down a mando & didnt get the title fight he wanted & now when he finally did he gets it. Dude is the mando now. Say this that or w/e thats what did happen to not get him.a title shot & this is what happened to get him finally lined up with a title shot.

And sh^t I don't even fault him. Ortiz is no joke & likely woulda outboxed him unless Whyte pulled a Wilder & KO'd him late. Fighting that younger less proven, less boogieman guy for a mando fight was a much better opportunity.

Exactly ... you better backed down with your lies. I don’t get a toss about Whyte, but I dislike posters lying.

Fact is the Whyte/Ortiz winner was going to be a secondary mandatory as stipulated by the WBC.

To try and twist it is very irresponsible of you, so you can call me a fan boi of Whyte all you want but I hate these organisations like the WBC.

And when you try to spread a lie then I would call you out on it.

https://www.boxing news24.com/2018/0...vs-luis-ortiz/

By Scott Gilfoid: Eddie Hearn says he plans on appealing the World Boxing Council’s decision to order a fight between #1 WBC Dillian Whyte and #3 Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz for the second mandatory position to get a title shot against WBC heavyweight champion Deontay ‘Bronze Bomber’ Wilder.

Hearn wants the WBC to install the 29-year-old Whyte (23-1, 17 KOs) as Wilder’s mandatory so that he can get a title shot straightaway rather than having to go through Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs).
“We’re going to appeal that. [WBC president] Mauricio Sulaiman said he would talk about it this week, and maybe post a resolution,” Hearn said to skysports.com.

[Ray*]

Here are the rest of the notable announcements:

The organization ordered a final heavyweight title elimination fight between England's Dillian Whyte (23-1, 17 KOs) and Miami-based Cuban defector Luis "King Kong" Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs) for the right to become the division's second mandatory challenger behind Dominic Breazeale for the right to challenge titlist Deontay Wilder. Ortiz is coming off a highly competitive 10th-round knockout loss to Wilder on March 3.

As per ESPN...

[Ray*]

So stop encouraging these organisations and spreading lies on here. The Whyte/Ortiz winner was never going to be mandatory. They were going to be the second mandatory which is where we still at the moment.

[Toffee]

Then ducking doesn't exist. Cuz everyone has their reasons. Why get destroyed by fighter A when i can feast on fighters Y and Z

Everyone has their reasons, but you wouldn't agree with all of them.

Despite what people were saying on here, Ortiz always represented risk without reward. One brain cell will get you to the right answer on that one. No duck.

Avoiding a title shot. Or a massive payday in favour of a lesser one. Yeah that's a duck.

[Eff Pandas]

Exactly ... you better backed down with your lies. I don’t get a toss about Whyte, but I dislike posters lying.

Fact is the Whyte/Ortiz winner was going to be a secondary mandatory as stipulated by the WBC.

To try and twist it is very irresponsible of you, so you can call me a fan boi of Whyte all you want but I hate these organisations like the WBC.

And when you try to spread a lie then I would call you out on it.

https://www.boxing news24.com/2018/0...vs-luis-ortiz/

By Scott Gilfoid: Eddie Hearn says he plans on appealing the World Boxing Council’s decision to order a fight between #1 WBC Dillian Whyte and #3 Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz for the second mandatory position to get a title shot against WBC heavyweight champion Deontay ‘Bronze Bomber’ Wilder.

Hearn wants the WBC to install the 29-year-old Whyte (23-1, 17 KOs) as Wilder’s mandatory so that he can get a title shot straightaway rather than having to go through Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs).
“We’re going to appeal that. [WBC president] Mauricio Sulaiman said he would talk about it this week, and maybe post a resolution,” Hearn said to skysports.com.

A mando is a mando. It gets you in line to fight the title holder. Idk wtf you are on with "lies". You are dying on a hill of semantics. Fact remains if Ortiz had beaten Ortiz he'd have had his title shot already firstly or sevondarily or w/e the f#ck you wanna semantics it to be that suggests Im "lying" to make you feel better.

And like I said I think he shoulda avoided Ortiz. He likely wouldn't be the mando now if he had tried to go through Ortiz.

[Shadoww702]

A mando is a mando. It gets you in line to fight the title holder. Idk wtf you are on with "lies". You are dying on a hill of semantics. Fact remains if Ortiz had beaten Ortiz he'd have had his title shot already firstly or sevondarily or w/e the f#ck you wanna semantics it to be that suggests Im "lying" to make you feel better.

And like I said I think he shoulda avoided Ortiz. He likely wouldn't be the mando now if he had tried to go through Ortiz.

I REALLY wanted to see Whyte vs. Ortiz? I would of made some good coin taking Ortiz! These Brits OVERATE their guys sooo much!!! I had a few fools lined up to take to the cleaners. Still do if they fight hopefully very soon. The Cuban is a much, much better boxer. Whyte just went life and death with some bum and looked f’n BEYOND terrible. WithOut his PED’s he looks like sht

[Ray*]

A mando is a mando. It gets you in line to fight the title holder. Idk wtf you are on with "lies". You are dying on a hill of semantics.

No a second mandatory is not an immediate mandatory. So like I said you are a liar. Point was Team Whyte reject the WBC offer of a “Second mandatory” because he would be in the same position that he is now.

So to use that lie as “Whyte duck Ortiz” is anyone losing credibility in that instance.