Analysing all GGG's world titles

[AKAcronym]

Same, I guess. I got plenty of other fighters I follow and posting about Golovkin's an exercise in futility at this point in time, everyone's already decided where they stand and arguing with folk just makes 'em dig their heels in more. That's just how people are.


Thing is you can't even talk about him neutrally or tangentially without someone getting excited about it... made a very general point about how US promoters these days are more likely to fast track the older ammys coming out of the ex-Soviets and all of a sudden I was being a Golovkin 'cum guzzler'.

Some of these dudes are so involved in their silly fanboy bullish they just assume everyone else is thinking the same way.

I wonder how much boxing some of these guys actually watch. Feels like they're so tied up with certain fighters and posting on these boards, that I wonder if they're truly a fan of the sport, instead of just fighters. They act like they're so much better than Golovkin fans, EE fans, Soviet fans-you name it, when really they do exactly the same for their fighter. All I want is consistency.

[emceetns]

sturm lost it to geale, this is not handing over the title.
Geale chose Mundine because the rugby player part time boxer was a much bigger earner than GGG. This is not handing over the title. In fact Geale turned up to face him for it.

Did Martinez and Cotto hand over their titles too, or what it GGG that waited till he was 34 to climb in the ring when a shyt titlist came along like Lemieux?

What IS handing over the title is the governing bodies giving them to GGG - because that way he would lose them after facing more than 1 top contender as he does in real life.

Deal with real life not your dreams. Now if GGG can prove he can beat more than one top contender and still keep a title I will change my tune, but till then, you accept reality.

ah so, the guy who fought mayweather and unified at LMW was avoiding a guy who had only just won a title in the ring that year. ok, put down the pipe..

Don't take my word for it about Felix Sturm:

https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-explains-details-sturm-paying-avoid-golovkin--61851

Or Martinez, Cotto, or anybody else:

https://sundaypuncher.com/a-timeline-of-gennady-golovkins-quest-for-a-big-fight-9ac0d387d37c

As for Canelo, I never said that he outright avoided Golovkin. I simply said that he could have fought GGG sooner if he wanted to:

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/15598415/canelo-alvarez-vacates-wbc-title-deadline-looming

[DreamFighter]

Don't take my word for it about Felix Sturm:

https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-exp...olovkin--61851

Spurm is a serial ducker, hes the king of spin like Ottke. This proves nothing, he ran from any challenge he could, or paid the judges for, not just GGG.

Or Martinez, Cotto, or anybody else:

https://sundaypuncher.com/a-timeline...t-9ac0d387d37c

sunday puncher? r u kidding me, theres not a straight fact there. Martinez was on record as wanting a warm-up after his operation before facing serious challengers.His real sin was using the warm up opponent (who became GGG's best defence shortly after) as a title defence.

As for Canelo, I never said that he outright avoided Golovkin. I simply said that he could have fought GGG sooner if he wanted to:

Golovkin could have fought to win title before he was nearly 35 too, thats probably Canelos fault in your eyes yuh? Theres only one person delaying here.

[emceetns]

Spurm is a serial ducker, hes the king of spin like Ottke. This proves nothing, he ran from any challenge he could, or paid the judges for, not just GGG.


sunday puncher? r u kidding me, theres not a straight fact there. Martinez was on record as wanting a warm-up after his operation before facing serious challengers.His real sin was using the warm up opponent (who became GGG's best defence shortly after) as a title defence.

Golovkin could have fought to win title before he was nearly 35 too, thats probably Canelos fault in your eyes yuh? Theres only one person delaying here.

It seems like Golovkin was trying to get a title fight long before he was almost 35. And I don't remember him turning down any title shots; I remember him fighting for interim titles and then not getting shots from various fighters.

One last thing, it's a known fact that Canelo vacated the WBC title because he didn't want to adhere to their timeline, which was his choice. He made the GGG fight when he wanted to make it, which is more than I can say for guys like Felix Sturm (the "serial ducker" as you called him). I think it's fair to say that if Sturm had manned up and taken the fight then GGG would have had a title at least five years earlier.

[DreamFighter]

It seems like Golovkin was trying to get a title fight long before he was almost 35. And I don't remember him turning down any title shots; I remember him fighting for interim titles and then not getting shots from various fighters.

One last thing, it's a known fact that Canelo vacated the WBC title because he didn't want to adhere to their timeline, which was his choice.

i guess its not sunk in yet that Canelo captured his first titles in his early 20s and GGG did one when nearly 35.

its a stark contrast, nevermind what you write,makes "oh canelo is a ducker" like a post from a mental asylum.

But out of interest, how would you feel if it was Canelo who waited till 35 before taking a title from someone?

He made the GGG fight when he wanted to make it, which is more than I can say for guys like Felix Sturm (the "serial ducker" as you called him). I think it's fair to say that if Sturm had manned up and taken the fight then GGG would have had a title at least five years earlier.

always someone elses fault with GGG, even when he finally steps up and loses after 1 step up to normal title defences win.
THIS is whats fair to say - if GGG had stepped up and won a title from someone when he was 27, he'd manage one top defence and a few duff ones before losing it...basedon what he does in real life.

[emceetns]

i guess its not sunk in yet that Canelo captured his first titles in his early 20s and GGG did one when nearly 35.

its a stark contrast, nevermind what you write,makes "oh canelo is a ducker" like a post from a mental asylum.

But out of interest, how would you feel if it was Canelo who waited till 35 before taking a title from someone?



always someone elses fault with GGG, even when he finally steps up and loses after 1 step up to normal title defences win.
THIS is whats fair to say - if GGG had stepped up and won a title from someone when he was 27, he'd manage one top defence and a few duff ones before losing it...basedon what he does in real life.

Canelo was never gonna have to wait that long for a title shot and we all know this. He has been groomed to be Mexico's next superstar from the beginning, which is why he fought Matthew Hatton for a vacant title at 154. Canelo has still proven to be a great fighter, however we can't act like everyone gets the same opportunities.

[DreamFighter]

Canelo was never gonna have to wait that long for a title shot

particuarly since he waited his early 20s for title shots, including an ATG.

here you are quoting matthew hatton to belittle the guy who did that.

you must be proud of yourself.

[emceetns]

particuarly since he waited his early 20s for title shots, including an ATG.

here you are quoting matthew hatton to belittle the guy who did that.

you must be proud of yourself.

I didn't belittle anybody. I said that Canelo has proven to be a great fighter. Matthew Hatton was decent but not a world-beater.

[DreamFighter]

I didn't belittle anybody. I said that Canelo has proven to be a great fighter. Matthew Hatton was decent but not a world-beater.

ah matthew hatton, lets forget he fought mayweather back then ok.

[therealpugilist]

160:

WBA- didn't fight anyone for the real title, got elevated from "interim" to "regular" to "super"

IBF- Beat a C level fighter in Lemiuex

WBC- Didn't fight anyone for the title, got it gifted to him from king nelo

IBF - Robbed SD, he will probably duck a rematch too

to sum it up, one of the weakest resumes of any so called top 3 p4p fighter possibly ever. inflated defenses glad he got beat so they wouldnt cook up some BS record...Carlos Monzon has the record for lineal defenses and Hopkins has the most for a major title