Analysing all GGG's world titles

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  • emceetns
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    #91
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    stop making up silly stories you ****** golov-muppets

    here is a thought... what would have happened, if Golovkin had taken all those fights he avoided?

    how come that reality did not ****** your fantasies?... when you girls were busy daydreaming about... woulda coulda shoulda LMAO




    here is my alternate reality fantasy about Canelo, I wish with all my heart...

    1) Canelo will fight the FOUR next-best JMW's CONSECUTIVELY...

    2) ... one of those four being the best fighter of this generation

    3) Canelo will fight the two best middleweights on the planet, walking away with a clear win over both... even if it takes a rematch to get there

    4) Canelo will make BIG fights with known killers, better fights than his peers are making


    5) Canelo will fight AT LEAST the two best SMW's on the planet before he retires




    anyone want to bet on our mutual fantasies happening... ?
    I'm sorry...do I know you?? Exactly, let's stick to discussing boxing.
    Last edited by emceetns; 01-23-2020, 12:56 PM.

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    • AKAcronym
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      #92
      Canelo fought the "next best" JMW's consecutively? I must've missed that...

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      • DreamFighter
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        #93
        then how come in reality its

        -wins first title in 2015 versus Lemieux, only beats one top contender before capitulating.

        Originally posted by emceetns
        Here is how I imagine things playing out for GGG in an alternate reality where he wasn't avoided until 2017:

        2010-2011: Golovkin first makes waves by stopping Felix Sturm late to win his first title at 160.

        2012: He makes his HBO debut as a titlist and HBO demands a title unification against Sergio Martinez since both fought in September of that year.

        2013: Golovkin ends Sergio Martinez' reign as middleweight king by overcoming the old lion in a spirited slugfest. A new star is born and all roads point to GGG at 160

        2014-2015: Golovkin is a big enough star to get the Canelo fight sooner and we get an even better version of the fight we saw in 2017. We are treated to a savage war in which GGG has a little more bounce and explosiveness and Canelo proves haters wrong by dishing out punishment in return. Golovkin wins a split decision but it takes a greater toll on him than Canelo

        2016: Canelo wins a controversial majority decision in the rematch and there is enough money in the pot for all parties to go all-in for a trilogy.

        2017: The third fight happens exactly when the actual first fight did and we get the same controversial draw that is hotly debated for years to come.

        The end result is that both Canelo and GGG are elevated and only the most biased haters can question either fighter's greatness.

        By the way, I also see a scenario where Golovkin takes the bait for a Mayweather fight at 154-155 after defeating Martinez and loses a UD. It turns out that draining that low affects him more than he thought it would.

        If the Canelo fight still didn't happen in 2017 then I believe GGG would have won close decisions over a red-hot Billy Joe Saunders (tricky style matchup) while stopping a game Daniel Jacobs.

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        • emceetns
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          #94
          Originally posted by DreamFighter
          then how come in reality its

          -wins first title in 2015 versus Lemieux, only beats one top contender before capitulating.
          Who exactly did Golovkin capitulate to? and his win over Lemieux was a unification so it couldn't have been his first title.

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            #95
            Originally posted by emceetns
            Who exactly did Golovkin capitulate to? and his win over Lemieux was a unification so it couldn't have been his first title.
            are you dis*****g that he won his first title in the ring with Lemieux?

            Are you ignoring that Canelo beat him?

            thats your issue then. Quote your own post asking yourself why you are doing these, not mine.

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              #96
              I think someone needs to learn what capitulate means...

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                #97
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                I think someone needs to learn what capitulate means...
                My thoughts exactly

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  are you dis*****g that he won his first title in the ring with Lemieux?

                  Are you ignoring that Canelo beat him?

                  thats your issue then. Quote your own post asking yourself why you are doing these, not mine.
                  1. I took a quick look on boxrec and GGG won an interim WBA title in the ring that was later upgraded to a full title in 2010. He then won the interim WBC title in 2015 and that was later upgraded. They were later upgraded because the full champions (Felix Sturm, Miguel Cotto and later Canelo Alvarez) wouldn't fight him at that time. It's fine if you don't count that, however your first post made it seem like he went in against Lemieux as a challenger and that the IBF title was his first title.

                  2. Canelo did win the rematch against Golovkin, but "capitulate" means to surrender and GGG didn't quit on his stool so there's that.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by emceetns
                    1. I took a quick look on boxrec.
                    I dont need to look at boxrec to know that titles are won in the ring.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by emceetns
                      2. Canelo did win the rematch against Golovkin, but "capitulate" means to surrender and GGG didn't quit on his stool so there's that.
                      he sure capitulated from being a titleholder, not sure what other meaning you read into that statement about being champion.

                      reading it as "didnt quit on his stool" stinks of avoidance. Sounds like Amir Khan saying "I'd rather get knocked out"

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