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There is no clear no1 in the division until the winner of this fight then has a unification fight with you know who. The only other current top 10 guy Wilder has fought is Ortiz, who himself hasnt fought anyone in the current top 10. And since Furys comeback when hes not fighting Wilder hes been facing guys that arent even top 30, and sometimes looking bad in the process. How can you be no1 when youre barely if ever mixing it up with the rest of the top 10?
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The winner will be the undefeated WBC, Lineal and Ring Magazine world heavyweight champion. Joshua is the recently defeated IBF/WBA/WBO champion, the three belts Fury threw in the garbage.
Everybody other than Joshua fanboys will consider the Wilder/Fury winner the clear #1.Comment
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Joshua has fought more of the current top 10 than Fury and Wilder combined, he avenged his one loss emphatically enough to put the first one down to a bad night (Wilder only kept his 0 due to shady judging anyway so he shouldnt be undefeated either) and holds 75% of the major titles.
And btw i'm not saying Joshua should be no1 either. But all roads should lead through him and unification. Lol @ two dudes that have basically only fought each other somehow leapfrogging past all the top 10 guys that they havent fought and being considered no1 due to the result of their fight. How can anyone even gauge exactly how good either guy really is if they dont face anyone else of note? Fury is fighting Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin when hes not fighting Wilder ffs.Comment
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Joshua has 4 fights against fighters in the Boxrec top 10 right now and was brutally destroyed in one of them. Fury and Wilder combined have 6 fights against fighters in the Boxrec top 10 and are undefeated in those fights.
Maybe in the eyes of a UK fanboy, but to the average fan, when you get brutally knocked down over and over until you're forced to quit, and then in the rematch you refuse to engage and just run away for 12 rounds, that's not consider emphatically avenging anything.he avenged his one loss emphatically enough to put the first one down to a bad nightComment
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Lol @ this used car salesman mental gymnastics speak. Hmm wonder why you're saying how many fights they've had against someone in the top 10 instead of how many DIFFERENT top 10 opponents theyve faced. Wonder why you use "right now" for Joshua but not for Fury and Wilder. Too funny.
Who in the current top 10 has Fury fought? Wilder. Who in the current top 10 has Wilder fought? Fury (who was only put in there off the back of what he did 3 years earlier before he got fat and "retired") and Ortiz (who has fought nobody else in the current top 10). Meanwhile Joshua has fought Whyte, Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz. Whyte and Parker have fought each other. Parker and Ruiz have fought each other. Hunter and Povetkin have fought each other. 6 different currently top 10 ranked names who have mixed it up with each other and somehow the supposed "no1 in the division" wont have fought any of them....
Of course theres one fatal flaw with all this "you're only saying it cause you're a UK fanboy" argument that Americans like to use....Fury is from the UK too.Comment
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Current top 10 ranked fighters each of the top 10 has fought.
AJ = Whyte, Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz
Parker = AJ, Whyte, Ruiz
Whyte = AJ, Parker
Povetkin = AJ, Hunter
Ruiz = AJ, Parker
Hunter = Povetkin
Wilder = Fury, Ortiz
Fury = Wilder
Ortiz = Wilder
Kownacki = Nobody.
Add to that the unification aspect and again, the winner of Fury/Wilder shouldnt be considered no1 unless they A) beat Joshua B) beat the guy that beats Joshua (Ruiz doesnt count anymore) or C) beat a significant amount of the rest of the top 10. Lol @ potentially accepting Fury as the no1 guy in the division when he will have faced precisely one guy in the top 10...Comment
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