Which fighter in current history...

[The D3vil]

Your views are completely DELUSIONAL.

Canelo unified with Trout at 154
Unified with Mayweather at 154
Unified with Jacobs at 160.
He has also fought Lara, Cotto, GGG x2, Kovalev etc.

I genuinely don’t like the guy but how can you complain about that resume?��

The vast, vast majority of all time great fighters have fought across various weight divisions.

It’s a way of CHALLENGING yourself. SRR did it, Hank did it, SRL did it, Roy did it, Floyd did it, Pac did it and now Canelo is doing it. But unfortunately some sad b***ards still whine and complain saying he should’ve done this, he should’ve done that. Get a life!!

Canelo didn't completely unify any division.

I don't think Floyd or Manny did either.

I don't support that.

I would've rather Manny or Floyd try to completely unify 147 rather than reach up and grab a belt just to have one at 154.

That's not to say that their ATG resumes aren't ATG resumes, but they'd be more impressive to me if either dominated a division like say Carlos Monzon did at MW for a decade or 7 years like Roberto Duran did at LW, rather than just hopping all over the place for the sake of hopping all over the place.

Crawford's my P4P king because he actually did put the effort in to completely unifying a division and did it before moving up to 147.

And Hank Armstrong was actually a champion in a time when there was only ONE champion per division.

When he ruled 3 division, he was actually the REAL champion, not just a guy holding an alphabet belt to say that he was holding a belt.

Again, the goal of all of these guys should be to completely unify their division, so that there is only 1 champion.

This is why I say that Charlo and Andrade should fight each other & GGG should fight them as well.

You and you zeal to defend Canelo (a guy you purport not to be a "fan" of) has blinded you to that fact.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Canelo didn't completely unify any division.

I don't think Floyd or Manny did either.

I don't support that.

I would've rather Manny or Floyd try to completely unify 147 rather than reach up and grab a belt just to have one at 154.

That's not to say that their ATG resumes aren't ATG resumes, but they'd be more impressive to me if either dominated a division like say Carlos Monzon did at MW for a decade or 7 years like Roberto Duran did at LW, rather than just hopping all over the place for the sake of hopping all over the place.

Crawford's my P4P king because he actually did put the effort in to completely unifying a division and did it before moving up to 147.

And Hank Armstrong was actually a champion in a time when there was only ONE champion per division.

When he ruled 3 division, he was actually the REAL champion, not just a guy holding an alphabet belt to say that he was holding a belt.

Again, the goal of all of these guys should be to completely unify their division, so that there is only 1 champion.

This is why I say that Charlo and Andrade should fight each other & GGG should fight them as well.

You and you zeal to defend Canelo (a guy you purport not to be a "fan" of) has blinded you to that fact.

Canelo is a drug cheat who got a gift against GGG. I’m in no way a fan. But I massively respect his ability and accomplishments as a fighter, as any real boxing fan does.

You don’t support a guy like Manny Pacquiao who completely re-wrote boxing history by competing from 105 to 154 winning titles in 8 DIVISIONS.

You’re a f***ing idiot.😂😂

Crawford’s a great fighter but beating Dulorme, Postol and Indongo to win 4 ABC belts is NOWHERE NEAR as impressive as what Canelo, Floyd, Pac etc have done, whether you support it or not.

[Fat_asian]

Toney and Pacquiao, both product s of wildcard gym.

[maguirre]

Do you think this GGG ducked Ward thing
the biggest nonsense in the sport of boxing?
I mean, they're not on the same division.
Most fighters who move up are allowed to fight bums
for their debut fights in the next division.
Case in point is Ward himself.
Charlo fought a one-legged opponent in Heiland.
Broner fought semi-retired Malignaggi.
Garcia fought Juda, on and on and on and on...

Yet Glovkin has to fight the #1 P4P in the division?
Is this a joke or what?

Jermall Charlo is still fighting Heiland-level opponents after all these years.

[The D3vil]

Canelo is a drug cheat who got a gift against GGG. I’m in no way a fan. But I massively respect his ability and accomplishments as a fighter, as any real boxing fan does.

You don’t support a guy like Manny Pacquiao who completely re-wrote boxing history by competing from 105 to 154 winning titles in 8 DIVISIONS.

You’re a f***ing idiot.����

Crawford’s a great fighter but beating Dulorme, Postol and Indongo to win 4 ABC belts is NOWHERE NEAR as impressive as what Canelo, Floyd, Pac etc have done, whether you support it or not.

Your mother's a fxcking idiot for not swallowing you when she had the chance.

I love Pacquiao and said he's an ATG, but I said that it would've been even more impressive had he completely unified at 140 or 147 rather than just winning the belt at 154.

Like I said, Marvin Hagler & Carlos Monzon are even greater ATGs who stayed and dominated one weight class for almost a decade each.

Roberto Duran completely dominated the LW division for 7 years before moving up to welter & beating one of the greatest WWs of all-time in his own division.

Henry Armstrong was champ in 3 divisions when there was only 8 divisions and 1 champ per division.

What Canelo and other guys are doing today is nowhere near what those guys did

That's why all those guys are higher all-time P4P than Pacquaio, even though him going through 8 weight classes is the most impressive feat in the past 30 or so years.

And I never said Crawford's greater than those guys in an all-time sense, but unifying any division is the hardest thing to do in boxing right now, which is why only 3 other guys and Cecilia Breakhus have done it in the 4 belt era.

It's the most impressive thing that any of these particular guys have done recently.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Your mother's a fxcking idiot for not swallowing you when she had the chance.

I love Pacquiao and said he's an ATG, but I said that it would've been even more impressive had he completely unified at 140 or 147 rather than just winning the belt at 154.

Like I said, Marvin Hagler & Carlos Monzon are even greater ATGs who stayed and dominated one weight class for almost a decade each.

Roberto Duran completely dominated the LW division for 7 years before moving up to welter & beating one of the greatest WWs of all-time in his own division.

Henry Armstrong was champ in 3 divisions when there was only 8 divisions and 1 champ per division.

What Canelo and other guys are doing today is nowhere near what those guys did

That's why all those guys are higher all-time P4P than Pacquaio, even though him going through 8 weight classes is the most impressive feat in the past 30 for so years.

And I never said Crawford's greater than those guys in an all-time sense, but unifying any division is the hardest thing to do in boxing right now, which is why only 3 other guys and Cecilia Breakhus have done it in the 4 belt era.

It's the most impressive thing that any of these particular guys have done recently.

No it’s not you utter f***ing imbecile, Crawford beat 2 C level guys in and then has one solid win over Postol.

Canelo’s wins at 160 alone over GGG, Cotto, Jacobs etc are WAY MORE IMPRESSIVE you delusional little c***.

Pacquiao’s career surpasses both Hagler’s and Monzon’s.

Monzon and Hagler held the world title for what 7 years. Pacquiao has been winning world titles for over 20 years you utter f***ing moron.

I’m completely done reasoning with you now, I’m just gonna insult your dumb ass from now on.

[QueensburyRules]

And Hank Armstrong was actually a champion in a time when there was only ONE champion

- -Henry drew in a middle title bid equivalent to the WBU title.

[The D3vil]

No it’s not you utter f***ing imbecile, Crawford beat 2 C level guys in and then has one solid win over Postol.

Canelo’s wins at 160 alone over GGG, Cotto, Jacobs etc are WAY MORE IMPRESSIVE you delusional little c***.

Pacquiao’s career surpasses both Hagler’s and Monzon’s.

Monzon and Hagler held the world title for what 7 years. Pacquiao has been winning world titles for over 20 years you utter f***ing moron.

I’m completely done reasoning with you now, I’m just gonna insult your dumb ass from now on.

Canelo never beat GGG

He never beat Lara

And no, Pacquiao is not greater than Hagler & Monzon only somebody who just started watching boxing thinks so.

Pacquiao lost to Joe Horn, a guy that Crawford beat like a mule. Stop it, and got completely slept by Marquez, a guy Mayweather toyed with.

And, if you just insult me from here on out, I will just put your mark Canelo stan ass on ignore like those other Canelo stans.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Canelo never beat GGG

He never beat Lara

And no, Pacquiao is not greater than Hagler & Monzon only somebody who just started watching boxing thinks so.

Pacquiao lost to Joe Horn, a guy that Crawford beat like a mule. Stop it, and got completely slept by Marquez, a guy Mayweather toyed with.

And, if you just insult me from here on out, I will just put your mark Canelo stan ass on ignore like those other Canelo stans.

Whether you like it or not Canelo beat both, that’s a FACT you delusional little r*t*rd.


How are losses relevant you f***ing dope????

Hagler has losses to freaking Bobby Watts and Willie Monroe. And Monzon lost to a guy with a losing record, amongst two other unaccomplished fighters.

You should put me on ignore cause I have no interest in ever having a serious discussion with you, because you’re completely delusional and lack any common sense.

[The D3vil]

Whether you like it or not Canelo beat both, that’s a FACT you delusional little r*t*rd.


How are losses relevant you f***ing dope????

Hagler has losses to freaking Bobby Watts and Willie Monroe. And Monzon lost to a guy with a losing record, amongst two other unaccomplished fighters.

You should put me on ignore cause I have no interest in ever having a serious discussion with you, because you’re completely delusional and lack any common sense.

Hagler universally was considered robbed in EVERY FIGHT HE EVER LOST. Look it up.

And Monzon won 80 fights in a row. Stop it.

You can't compare people who fought in an era of zero ducking versus this era of cherrypicking, fighting twice a year, and moving up through divisions just to pick up a belt.

Adrien Broner's a 4 division champ, FFS,

Hagler was that dude. Just ask Bread

Marvin Hagler had the toughest pre title run of any middleweight of the last 40 years. Sugar Ray Seales 3x, Willie Monroe 3 x, Bennie Brisco, Cyclone Hart, Bobby Watts twice. That’s unreal. Literally unreal. 10 fights tougher than most fighter’s title reigns. Then when he became champion from 1980-87 we can’t think of one middleweight during the time that deserved a shot that he didn’t fight. Michael Nunn was emerging as a young fighter. But Hagler took big money fights in 1986 in Mugabi and in 1987 Leonard. So through 7 years the only slight case is an emerging Nunn. McCallum didn’t move up until after Hagler vs Leonard and that was Hagler’s last fight.

You're just too young to know what you're talking about.