Lennox Lewis= Top 3 in History

[Rusty Tromboni]

Well obviously but I'm no crapping on Lewis those are just the straight up facts. A top 3 fighter in the world does not lose to 2 journeyman in his prime, let alone by KO.

And let's not forget the gift decision to Mercer. The close call with the much smaller Holyfield. And the fiasco with Vitali.

Lewis liked being the bigger man, but he didn't have the heart of a champion. Guys like Frazier and Fury have shown was more fire in their belly. Lewis punked.

[Rusty Tromboni]

lewis would destroy Marciano ......knock him in to tomorrow.
Marciano has zero chance with Lewis ...zilch

If it's a head-to-head discussion, I give very few fighters a chance of beating him. At least, I wouldn't make many the favourite.

Fury and a prime Vitali are the only ones I honestly expect to beat him at his best, consistently. Ali, Foreman, Wlad would all have very good chance at beating him. But most would do no better than Mercer and Holyfield, at best. And some would get pole-axed.

[Rusty Tromboni]

The Lennox in Rahman 2 prolly could have.

He was basically the same fighter that night as the one who out-boxed Tua and Tyson, and who nearly flat-lined against an unprepared Klitchko.

Lewis looked greatagainst certain fighters and pedestrian against others.

Th. That version of Lennox vs rid**** from holyfield 1 would have been a next level mythical matchup .

No vrsion ofBowe could handle any version of Lewis' jab. It would probably be tremendously problematicfor Foreman, too.

that is w

[NORMNEALON]

He was basically the same fighter that night as the one who out-boxed Tua and Tyson, and who nearly flat-lined against an unprepared Klitchko.

Lewis looked greatagainst certain fighters and pedestrian against others.


No vrsion ofBowe could handle any version of Lewis' jab. It would probably be tremendously problematicfor Foreman, too.

that is w

Listen iam a huge lewis fan , but the guy who fought rock the second go was nothing like the fighter who fought tua , tyson , or vitali lennox fought with 0 urgency in those fights . Rahman 2 he was laser focused. That version of Lennox could beat any version of bowe but if he ran into the bowe from holyfield 1 he would have his hands very full as would any heavyweight in history .

[NORMNEALON]

He was basically the same fighter that night as the one who out-boxed Tua and Tyson, and who nearly flat-lined against an unprepared Klitchko.

Lewis looked greatagainst certain fighters and pedestrian against others.


No vrsion ofBowe could handle any version of Lewis' jab. It would probably be tremendously problematicfor Foreman, too.

that is w

This fight was supposed to happen in 92 / 93 do u really mean to tell me the lewis who fought frank bruno would 100% beat a prime champion bowe coming off the first holy fight?? I dont see it .

[Armchairhero]

Tyson was dead, I would not include him in the list. Only Lewis still brags about beating that shot shell of Tyson (full of Zoloft, for good measure).
Ruddock had been softened by the very Tyson.
Klitschko was giving Lewis hell before suffering that horrible gash.

Lewis was a good fighter for sure, but definitely not all-time top 3.

PS getting knocked out by Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman while in your prime doesn't help.

Ps. Ali was dropped by many, including Henry Cooper. That means nothing, just that you were in competitive fights and found a way to win

[Tatabanya]

Ps. Ali was dropped by many, including Henry Cooper. That means nothing, just that you were in competitive fights and found a way to win

In fact, against McCall and Rahman (first fights of course) that did not happen to Lewis

Then, if we want to consider all the rest, I have further clarified my position about Lennox in a subsequent post, please read it.

[Rusty Tromboni]

This fight was supposed to happen in 92 / 93 do u really mean to tell me the lewis who fought frank bruno would 100% beat a prime champion bowe coming off the first holy fight?? I dont see it .

Holyfield fought nothing like Lewis in that fight.

Maybe there were points in Lewis' career where he wasn't ready for Bowe. And the best Bowe was a much taller order than Mercer and Holyfiled (on offense). So yeah, I shouldn't be too dismissive of Bowe. But stylistically, Bowe would struggle with Lewis. Just like I have been explaining to others in the Frazier-Bowe thread that Frazier plays to Bowe's advantages.

[NORMNEALON]

Holyfield fought nothing like Lewis in that fight.

Maybe there were points in Lewis' career where he wasn't ready for Bowe. And the best Bowe was a much taller order than Mercer and Holyfiled (on offense). So yeah, I shouldn't be too dismissive of Bowe. But stylistically, Bowe would struggle with Lewis. Just like I have been explaining to others in the Frazier-Bowe thread that Frazier plays to Bowe's advantages.

I agree holyfield never fought like lewis , my reasoning is bowes jab , footwork , reflexes everything was on point that night
.that was in hindsight his one great performance. The main give away for me is bowe would simply outjab and outbox a pre steward lewis . Lewis primed late . Seriously tho watch bowe holyfield 1 and tell me which atg heavyweight in history you would pick to beat that man . And I mean outclass and beat his ass not land a one hitter quitter .

[NORMNEALON]

Well obviously but I'm no crapping on Lewis those are just the straight up facts. A top 3 fighter in the world does not lose to 2 journeyman in his prime, let alone by KO.

How is Rahman a journeyman?? Hes a massive over achiever , 2 time heavyweight champion of the world ( 1 time lineal ) and he has a better record than every champion active today . Iam not saying he would beat them head to head , but the man fought everyone and was in the top 10 for over 7 years , he is not a journeyman . Every dog has their day and Lennox avenged those defeats and righted his wrong , I dont see how that takes away from his legacy , if anything it adds to it . Also the journeyman Rahman would have hands down the best jab in the heavyweight division today and that isnt saying much . Are we in an era of all journeymen ??