Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao is FOTD - NOT Mayweather - It's Not Even Close!

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • JLC
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Dec 2017
    • 1513
    • 503
    • 313
    • 30,573

    #201
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Yes, Floyd beat nelo, but nelo wasn't FOTD candidate material when Floyd beat him. And it was a CW. Some will not give Floyd any credit whatsoever for that win. But some like you turn a complete blind eye to it. If you ignore all the real important facts about that fight i guess in your mind you can make a case for it being best win of all time but how realistic would you be being?

    Yes Floyd beat pac. But Pac fought so much.more than floyd Pac will lose more often, something's got to give. Pac s fighting nearly up to 20 times and Floyd barely 8 times. When your fighting so much more you have to pace yourself more from one fight to next can't go all out in each fights. If like Floyd you fight less you can give more of yourself each fight. And in that way Floyd always has advantages. Never wanted adversity.

    Controversial fight with IV fluids, and shoulder and poor performance by Floyd in general. Floyd got the win, just like Bradley did and jmm did, but nothing to boast about. If the win is underwhelming there's no reason it should be used to make a case for being fotd.
    If people didn't know anything about Bradley and horns career and on!y saw their win over pac, people wouldn't have countryside win over pac would help them be Fotd as the wins weren't satisfactory, just like flouds was nothing to about about.

    How can you be Fotd not taking risks, retiring nearly 5 years before decade ends in case you ruin the smoke and mirrors look of your resume?

    Fighting the number 2 lb for lb fighter is a risk. The biggest risk you can take if you’re the number 1 lb for lb fighter.

    The canelo win was a great win. Canelo came down 2 lbs. TWO POUNDS. Some people like you feel like because there was a CW the fight is completely null and void. But that’s hater talk. Pac has had plenty of catch weight fights in his career, especially the decade where he WON FOTD (Cotto, De La Hoya)
    Canelo has come up with his own magical weight for some of the wins this decade that have him as a candidate for FOTD.

    Floyd fought the biggest names and beat the biggest names and sold the most PPVs this decade. It’s no arguing with some people who despise the guy so much, but we all know who the best is.

    This is like someone saying Jordan wasn’t the best ball player from 90-99 cuz he was retired for 4 years during that span. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???!

    Comment

    • hugh grant
      Undisputed Champion
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Apr 2006
      • 30065
      • 2,142
      • 812
      • 105,596

      #202
      Floyd s wins over pac and nel o aren't great wins. Floyd had more to lose against Pac then gain. If he lost he would have lost to a guy with much more wear and tear and mileage on clock. Winning is no big deal because although your beating pfp no2 he's smaller than you with more wear and tear and because of that your supposed to beat PAC.
      You got to to take risks. The only risk in.that fight for Floyd, again was if he lost h ed be slaughtered for it. Losing to a smaller guy with more mileage on clock.koed 3 fights earlier. He's slaughtered for poor performance anyway. He gained nothing from that win. That's being realistic not harsh. Bradley didn't gain much from his win over PAC neither did horn. So why does PAC elevate floyds status to mythical proportions?
      It wasn't a win to put forward case for fotd. PAC at this stage gains more from his wins than he will lose.. You won't gain much from beating PAC, not because PACs not great. PACs unbelievable but to become unbelievable he's had to kill himself beating everyone somethings got to give. It takes its toll a 23 years and 70;fights career
      Last edited by hugh grant; 01-10-2020, 08:07 PM.

      Comment

      • Sustanon
        The Aggressor
        Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
        • Dec 2012
        • 335
        • 23
        • 0
        • 10,208

        #203
        this should not be a debate
        boxers using peds should not be nominatewd
        Floyd = IV fluid
        Canelo = Clenbuterol

        if either of this 2 wins, then boxing is tolerating the use of Performance Enhancing Drugs

        Comment

        • pasawayako
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 15348
          • 639
          • 194
          • 151,963

          #204
          Floyd has the most GIFT WINS this decade and that's why the BWAA will this award to floyd as A GIFT ONLY not that he desrved it....

          Comment

          • jmrf4435
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Jun 2014
            • 8397
            • 772
            • 14
            • 66,112

            #205
            I see no argument for Floyd..

            Pacman ****ing beat thurman who is still in his prime, unbelievable.

            Floyd stays retired

            Comment

            • SUBZER0ED
              Be water, my friend.
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Feb 2013
              • 11013
              • 2,374
              • 1,764
              • 34,667

              #206
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Yeah you might need to go and re-do your maths class mate

              2009
              2010
              2011
              2012
              2013
              2014
              2015
              2016
              2017
              2018
              2019

              Count how many years that is.

              Here's a clue; It's not 10.
              Ok there, Sport. Let's say I was born in 1961. On that same day in 1971, How old was I? If your answer isn't 10, you need to brush up on your 'rithmatic.

              Comment

              • IronDanHamza
                Banned
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 48371
                • 4,778
                • 266
                • 104,043

                #207
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                Ok there, Sport. Let's say I was born in 1961. On that same day in 1971, How old was I? If your answer isn't 10, you need to brush up on your 'rithmatic.
                Ok so I underestimated your ******ity. I apologise for this. I genuinely didn't think I'd have to break down why 2009 was not in the last decade (2010-2019)

                If you were born on a date in 1961 then on that same date in 1971 you would be turning 10. Where you are struggling here is you are failing to understand that that is because you would turn 1 in 1962. 1961-1962 being the first year.


                You are counting 2010 as year 1 being completed, when it's 2011 when year 1 was completed (Jan 1st 2011)


                Let me just show you again;


                2010-2011 - Year 1
                2011-2012 - Year 2
                2012-2013 - Year 3
                2013-2014 - Year 4
                2014-2015 - Year 5
                2015-2016 - Year 6
                2016-2017 - Year 7
                2017-2018 - Year 8
                2018-2019 - Year 9
                2019-2020 - Year 10


                Do you see 2009 in the list above? No you don't. Ponder on a guess as to why you think that is? Because on this day in 2009, was how many years ago? Get your fingers out and count, ding ding ding - It's not 10 is it.

                Hope this helps.
                Last edited by IronDanHamza; 01-10-2020, 10:27 PM.

                Comment

                • Curtis Harper
                  Banned
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 10114
                  • 254
                  • 446
                  • 303,080

                  #208
                  Originally posted by Skyway71
                  Dropping out of high school equals no diploma for your hero, Floyd.
                  There are literally MILLIONS of college educated people kicking rocks looking for a job.

                  Comment

                  • SUBZER0ED
                    Be water, my friend.
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 11013
                    • 2,374
                    • 1,764
                    • 34,667

                    #209
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Ok so I underestimated your ******ity. I apologise for this. I genuinely didn't think I'd have to break down why 2009 was not in the last decade (2010-2019)

                    If you were born on a date in 1961 then on that same date in 1971 you would be turning 10. Where you are struggling here is you are failing to understand that that is because you would turn 1 in 1962. 1961-1962 being the first year.


                    You are counting 2010 as year 1 being completed, when it's 2011 when year 1 was completed (Jan 1st 2011)


                    Let me just show you again;


                    2010-2011 - Year 1
                    2011-2012 - Year 2
                    2012-2013 - Year 3
                    2013-2014 - Year 4
                    2014-2015 - Year 5
                    2015-2016 - Year 6
                    2016-2017 - Year 7
                    2017-2018 - Year 8
                    2018-2019 - Year 9
                    2019-2020 - Year 10


                    Do you see 2009 in the list above? No you don't. Ponder on a guess as to why you think that is? Because on this day in 2009, was how many years ago? Get your fingers out and count, ding ding ding - It's not 10 is it.

                    Hope this helps.
                    You wore the special padded helmet as a child, didn't you? It's ok, I won't hold it against you. The span of time from the year 2009 through the year 2019 is considered a decade. I'll make it simpler for you to understand, although we're getting into some really big numbers for you: The much celebrated bicentennial (that's 200 years, special ed) was 1776-1976, NOT 1777-1976. I can't believe I'm arguing with you about the definition of a decade.

                    Comment

                    • IronDanHamza
                      Banned
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 48371
                      • 4,778
                      • 266
                      • 104,043

                      #210
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      You wore the special padded helmet as a child, didn't you? It's ok, I won't hold it against you. The span of time from the year 2009 through the year 2019 is considered a decade. I'll make it simpler for you to understand, although we're getting into some really big numbers for you: The much celebrated bicentennial (that's 200 years, special ed) was 1776-1976, NOT 1777-1976. I can't believe I'm arguing with you about the definition of a decade.
                      Wow. Are you for real?

                      Are you seriously trying to argue that the year 2009 was in the last decade?

                      Again, I'll write it down for you again. Infact, I'll even use the dates to make it even easier;


                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2010 - YEAR ONE

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2011 - YEAR TWO

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2012 - YEAR THREE

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2013 - YEAR FOUR

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2014 - YEAR FIVE

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2015 - YEAR SIX

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2016 - YEAR SEVEN

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2017 - YEAR EIGHT

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2018 - YEAR NINE

                      Jan 1st - 31st December 2019 - YEAR TEN


                      Do you understand? Has it sunk in? Or are literally brain dead? Count the fucking years above you idiot.

                      Is 2009 there? No. Because the year 2009 was NOT in the last decade.

                      Jesus fucking christ.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP