Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao is FOTD - NOT Mayweather - It's Not Even Close!

[UNBANNED]

Everybody but the paid off judges in Australia said and knew Pac won

Again this is why I used objective sources. All 3 judges in Aussie had Joe Horn winning.

A follow-up independent review also had Horn winning.

Very few people outside of this forum think Pac won that fight...because he lost.

as for the Floydie fight, you know damn well Pac was injured.. and besides, he made Pac and Mosley wait til past their primes.

How did Floyd make either of them wait?

Mosley has the infamous post-fight interview where he says he has to "go to the dentist" and that's why he cant fight Floyd

Manny refused drug tests, was afraid of needles, needed cutoff dates, needed an outdoor stadium built, needed 50/50 split...Its insane that people hold Floyd accountable for that fight not happening sooner. Manny was more of a holdup than Floyd ever was

JMM3 was a clean with even if it chaps your back door.

I disagree but it was a good fight

Your opinion, not mine. And Floydie was a ducker the last several fights, and he juiced.

He juiced? This is getting pathetic...

Like I said, never fought Pac or Mosley in their primes, never fought Margarito at all. The list is long. Deny all you like, doesn't change reality.

...why did I even bother responding to you

[JLC]

Trust me Bradley won the poll comfortably. Bradley was considered the better win at time.
When your talking cott o your using too much hindsight. it

Yes. That's what we are doing, is looking in HINDSIGHT at the PAST DECADE. We are looking back to see who did what and where how it all fits together. We have a fighter of the decade poll with 3 fighters on the list.

Floyd
Pacquiao
Canelo

One of those fighters beat BOTH of the other fighters THIS DECADE. This really cant be that hard folks! If Pacquaio is good enough to be considered fighter of this decade, and Floyd BEAT him this decade... and

If Canelo is good enough to be considered fighter of THIS decade, and Floyd also beat HIM this decade

Then Floyd is fighter of the decade. Nevermind the fact that the top 3 PPVs of THIS DECADE all had Floyd Mayweather's name on the front.

If you are talking quality of wins, it is a no brainer. If you are talking popularity and impact, it is a no brainer. If you are talking about quantity of fights, and want to include the Jeff Horns and Jessie Vargas' and Amir Khan's and Julio Cesar Chavez' of the world, then Tevin Farmer is fighter of the decade cuz he stays active !

Thanks The Big Dunn for admitting floyds resume is not so strong and in depth with Floyd s best win being a former flyweight coming to end of career, past prime with no kos for ages.

How do you even begin to sum up Manny Pacquaio circa 2015 as "a former flyweight coming to end of a career" when 5 years later he is STILL fighting and STILL top 3 in a welterweight division with Errol Spence, Terrance Crawford, Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, and Danny Garcia campaigning in it?

The same Pacquiao who after losing to Floyd went on to win TWO more titles? One of them vs the Tim Bradley you speak so highly of, and the other he currently holds from beating Thurman, who at one time was ranked #1, and was undefeated until losing to Manny. The same Manny Pacquiao who is being considered for fighter of THIS decade, where he campaigned at 147? Not flyweight. 147! The hypocrisy is cringe worthy.

[aboutfkntime]

The Thurman Pacquiao beat would’ve tore up the Canelo Floyd beat, so there’s that.

But no, Floyd didn’t have any great wins this decade.
His best win this decade was Mcgregor.

some observers thought that Golovkin supporters were the ******est fans in boxing

I never thought that

I ALWAYS knew that pac-tards still reign supreme

the version of Thurman Pac beat, would not beat Spence Crawford Porter... let alone Canelo

[aboutfkntime]

this pac-fool thinks that EVERYONE deserves it more than Mayweather

Pac it's Not A Point Of Discussion

I'd even put Canelo, GGG over May

[BoomBapTrap]

some observers thought that Golovkin supporters were the ******est fans in boxing

I never thought that

I ALWAYS knew that pac-tards still reign supreme

the version of Thurman Pac beat, would not beat Spence Crawford Porter... let alone Canelo

You spend more time in Pacquiao threads than any other thread there is.
Cong****, you’re Manny’s biggest fan!

[aboutfkntime]

does Manny have 2x " biggest fans " ... ?

You spend more time in Pacquiao threads than any other thread there is.
Cong****, you’re Manny’s biggest fan!

kid, you just used that corny line on someone else LMAO

just like you used it about a dozen times here...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=836914&highlight=pac%27s+biggest

like I told you...

you are still here, and you have posted nothing that could be described as funny

unlike me




you are clearly more invested than I am

which means... the most that I could be is, Pac's 2nd biggest fan






get a new line, cornball... that line was always lame, now it is old

[hugh grant]

Yes. That's what we are doing, is looking in HINDSIGHT at the PAST DECADE. We are looking back to see who did what and where how it all fits together. We have a fighter of the decade poll with 3 fighters on the list.

Floyd
Pacquiao
Canelo

One of those fighters beat BOTH of the other fighters THIS DECADE. This really cant be that hard folks! If Pacquaio is good enough to be considered fighter of this decade, and Floyd BEAT him this decade... and

If Canelo is good enough to be considered fighter of THIS decade, and Floyd also beat HIM this decade

Then Floyd is fighter of the decade. Nevermind the fact that the top 3 PPVs of THIS DECADE all had Floyd Mayweather's name on the front.

Yes, Floyd beat nelo, but nelo wasn't FOTD candidate material when Floyd beat him. And it was a CW. Some will not give Floyd any credit whatsoever for that win. But some like you turn a complete blind eye to it. If you ignore all the real important facts about that fight i guess in your mind you can make a case for it being best win of all time but how realistic would you be being?

Yes Floyd beat pac. But Pac fought so much.more than floyd Pac will lose more often, something's got to give. Pac s fighting nearly up to 20 times and Floyd barely 8 times. When your fighting so much more you have to pace yourself more from one fight to next can't go all out in each fights. If like Floyd you fight less you can give more of yourself each fight. And in that way Floyd always has advantages. Never wanted adversity.

Controversial fight with IV fluids, and shoulder and poor performance by Floyd in general. Floyd got the win, just like Bradley did and jmm did, but nothing to boast about. If the win is underwhelming there's no reason it should be used to make a case for being fotd.
If people didn't know anything about Bradley and horns career and on!y saw their win over pac, people wouldn't have countryside win over pac would help them be Fotd as the wins weren't satisfactory, just like flouds was nothing to about about.

How can you be Fotd not taking risks, retiring nearly 5 years before decade ends in case you ruin the smoke and mirrors look of your resume?

[uppercut510]

Doesn’t matter what pac is continuing to do, him and canelo both lost to Mayweather in the decade along with pac losing to Bradley, Marquez by brutal ko and horn.... even if you think he won the Bradley and horn fight it’s losses on his record

good post its just true!!!!

[aboutfkntime]

seeing you went to the trouble of dismissing Canelo...

Yes, Floyd beat nelo, but nelo wasn't FOTD candidate material when Floyd beat him. And it was a CW. Some will not give Floyd any credit whatsoever for that win. But some like you turn a complete blind eye to it. If you ignore all the real important facts about that fight i guess in your mind you can make a case for it being best win of all time but how realistic would you be being?

Yes Floyd beat pac. But Pac fought so much.more than floyd Pac will lose more often, something's got to give. Pac s fighting nearly up to 20 times and Floyd barely 8 times. When your fighting so much !it's you have to pace yourself more from one fight to next can't go all out. If like Floyd you fight less you can give more of yourself each fight. And in that way Floyd always has advantages. Never wanted adversity.
How can you be Fotd not taking risks, retiring nearly 5 years before decade ends in case you ruin the smoke and mirrors look of your resume?

Pac resume for the 2010's (I will remove the catchweights).....

Clottey (fixed-fight)
Margarito (catchweight)
Mosley (catchweight)
Marquez (catchweight)
Bradley (Pac LOST)
Marquez (Pac LOST)
Rios (not a welter)
Bradley
Algieri (catchweight)
Mayweather (Pac LOST)
Bradley
Vargas
Horn (Pac LOST)
Matthyse (not a welter)
Broner
Thurman (not the same fighter)



the only clean wins Pac has... is Vargas and Broner

and if losses don't count... then Broner is FOTD

LMAO

[turnedup]

He fought the whole decade was top top 2 or top 3 most of that decade..with a few minor gaps where he slipped past top 5..at his age among active fighters and what they did the full decade? Really hard to argue against him because Floyd ain’t active and well Canelos decade isn’t really that impressive until the second half with some less than favorable names to mention.