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  • Fire4231
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    #191
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    You don’t take fights if you aren’t granted formal stipulations , the fact is Wilder declined 12.5 million first and then 15 last year ,he didn’t want the fight and said he lost his pen . The 100 million speaks for itself and the constant regurgitated statement of I won’t fight AJ is proof itself ,you just aren’t smart enough to understand he doesn’t want the fight. Ha

    See these are called real offers not social media ones where meetings aren’t allowed .

    Ortiz best win was 4 years ago and the guy was coming off a loss ,this supposed to make Ortiz the number 3 heavyweight according to you which again proves ydksab.

    Stiverne was hidden just like Wilder from Vitali that’s why they fought each other and not him . The rest of those guys started late and were inactive like Whyte ,good deflecting though ,still doesn’t change baby Wilder started in 2008 and had years to fight Vitali but hid years before Wlad knocked him around in sparring in 2014, one thing Finkel knew and that was to make sure Wilder stayed clear of both .
    Bro...Your comment is that of the uniformed or biased variety.

    AJ was offered a very collaborative 50 million plus the PPV upside on very fair terms. They even said the fight could happen in the U.K. He would have made well over a 100 million.

    Wilder was offered a flat 100 million in dictator like fashion. No PPV upside and that was a two fight deal (50 million a fight) on Dazn with Hearns judges, referees, conditions and locations.

    But why y’all bringing up the past. If AJ could have kept winning the fight would be bigger than ever. Who is responsible for AJ’s loss? Can you recognize AJ was knocked out just two fights back?

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #192
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      AJ man fan coming to the rescue as usual!

      Play the entire clip and not the edited one where it skips AJ completely stop fighting and calling for a timeout!
      Man...fan?

      Not sure if you're paying attention...or drunk still from New Year's partying. But the clip I shared is the timeout bro.

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      • REDEEMER
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        #193
        Originally posted by Fire4231
        Bro...Your comment is that of the uniformed or biased variety.

        AJ was offered a very collaborative 50 million plus the PPV upside on very fair terms. They even said the fight could happen in the U.K. He would have made well over a 100 million.


        Wilder was offered a flat 100 million in dictator like fashion. No PPV upside and that was a two fight deal (50 million a fight) on Dazn with Hearns judges, referees, conditions and locations.

        But why y’all bringing up the past. If AJ could have kept winning the fight would be bigger than ever. Who is responsible for AJ’s loss? Can you recognize AJ was knocked out just two fights back?

        Interestingly, Wilder said the two men who can get the deal done are his manager, Shelly Finkel, and DAZN Executive Chairman John Skipper, describing Skipper as “the solution to it all — not Hearn.”

        Funny when that happened Finkel took his slave Wilder and ignored the entire deal of 2 fight guaranteed of 50 million each .

        I didn’t bring up the past you did ,the problem is for Wilder fan’s locating track records of lying is very easy and shows team Wilder purposeful in blundering any kind of agreement so much when they actually receive a contract they ask for they still go silent on it only to use contradictory ones to accept another for the same reason ? Ha

        What is uninformed ,Ortiz best win or Wilder hiding from Vitali ?And how ? Ha Are actual facts getting in your way of simple questions that you just start your post with vague accusations you can’t dispute ?

        How much has Wilder made since turning down the offer from DAZN ?

        How many PPVs would Wilder be doing without Fury after the Ortiz one ?

        If Wlad came back where would in reality it drop Wilder in rankings ? I’d say easy 4 .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-02-2020, 11:21 PM.

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        • FreezeIzGawd
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          #194
          Originally posted by Fire4231
          Lol... Another lying soul less Hearn Bot dedicating his whole day to ineffectively creating a false narrative. It is obvious:

          AJ’s Last three opponents...
          - Ruiz
          - Povetkin
          - Parker

          DW’s Last three opponents...
          - Ortiz
          - Fury
          - Breazeale

          Unless you are a complete casual or shapeshifting lie for hire, it’s easy to see Wilder had the tougher schedule.

          In addition, AJ would be the underdog against both Ortiz and Fury if they fought today.

          I have to mention you are AJ’s worst witness. How are you going to bring up Wilder draw with Fury another top 2-3 fighter in the division?

          Didn’t AJ just get beat all the way down and stopped in embarrassing fashion by Ruiz? At the time Ruiz was an 8 seed at best who didn’t even have the privilege of a full camp.

          Cong****, AJ found some track shoes for the rematch. But to come on here like there is even a debate for AJ is just ridiculous.

          Good day, Hearn Sucka...
          See this is what I want people to argue. For some reason this doesn’t matter. Now all of a sudden Ortiz sucks and Fury is a fat overweight bum ONLY when Wilder fought but he is an UNDEFEATABLE GOD when it comes to him possibly fighting AJ.

          I keep hearing about where there were 5 years ago or 20 fights in BUT I AM TALKING NOW.....

          WHO HAS THE BETTER RESUME RIGHT NOW?!?!

          The last 3 opponents vs the last 3 opponents.....

          Wilders is not only WAAAAYYYYY BETTER BUT AJ HAS AN L ON HIS RECORD IN THE 3!!!!

          Why doesn’t this matter in AJs eyes?!?!

          YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHYT UP!!!

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          • Zelda
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            #195
            There are 3 top heavyweights today.

            Two of them are fighting each other for the second time, and look set to go for a third time too. They did not have any problems in negotiations and venues and platforms - even though one of them has contracts to fight exclusively on ESPN while the other fights on a different platform.

            The third one ain't fighting any of the other two but continues to say he wants to unify.

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              #196
              Originally posted by Zelda
              There are 3 top heavyweights today.

              Two of them are fighting each other for the second time, and look set to go for a third time too. They did not have any problems in negotiations and venues and platforms - even though one of them has contracts to fight exclusively on ESPN while the other fights on a different platform.

              The third one ain't fighting any of the other two but continues to say he wants to unify.
              The third one is the unified champion which makes him no less then number 2 and Wilder a third wheel because he lost to Fury ! Derr , Ha
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-02-2020, 11:34 PM.

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              • FreezeIzGawd
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                #197
                Originally posted by duff000
                Since I can’t post links yet because I’m new on here, here are the exact quotes from Shelly Winkle. Would like to add that “baby wilder” was 31 years old at the time of this article lol. Anyone don’t believe it can just google it

                He says there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills.

                “Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”
                Yeah cute except you conveniently neglected to point out he was talking about Wlad and NOT AJ at the time though....

                BWAWAWAWAHAHAHAHA......

                BUT WHO NEEDS THE TRUE WHEN YOU ARE MAKING A GREAT STORY.......

                YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHYT UP

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                • FreezeIzGawd
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                  Because Wilder is too busy fighting rematches against guys past their prime?
                  Okay so will Fury still be past his prime in the “Battle of Britain” or was Ortiz washed up and past his prime when AJ was saying he wanted to fight him before he chose Ruiz and got THE BEATS BY DRE put on his head!!

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                  • manii
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                    #199
                    Let's get real Joshua

                    Than why can't Joshua, fight
                    the winner of the Wilder vs. Fury
                    match ?

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                    • Angeljuice
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Dude AJ just went 1-1 with an unknown American. America is still the Mecca for boxing.

                      If AJ wants to be wlad or calzaghe that is fine. He will be treated accordingly.

                      Just don’t talk about wilder when you’re fighting pulev next.
                      That "unknown American" doesn't like being called American at all and sees himself as Mexican.

                      Outside of Wilder and perhaps Ruiz, you don't have a single world class heavyweight.

                      UK has three of the top five Heavyweights, the best young prospect going and holds four belts against your one.

                      How can you argue that we don't control the division?

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