Comments Thread For: Joshua: We Unified in 20 Fights, Wilder Has Not in 40 - Why Not?

[FreezeIzGawd]

You can ask the guys with franchise champions....

BWAWAWAWAWAHAHAHA

I got you....

See when you lose the argument apply sarcasm and deflection.....

My question was a simple yes or no.....

Can the WBA recognize up to 4 different champions in the same weight class simultaneously?!?!

If not then you have shown how vastly superior you are to Me intellectually.

Oh by the way I love how you use terms like casual as an insult.

Like you are so knowledgeable.

Plus show Me your credentials that make you so advanced.

Do you have a journalisms degree perhaps?

Please submit a copy.

Are you a retired Pro Boxer, trainer, cut man or anything?

If so please provide anything that solidified your status

Or are you just a guy who like the rest of us just WATCHES good fights on TV and critiques it....

Or maybe you have Google....

I am just hearing about that

[FreezeIzGawd]

AJ chose him to flatten him with the biggest pay of his career but he was no where to be found.
Guys like Charles martins have much relevance in this over hyped Ortiz that has done nothing in the division.
Has nothing to be remembered with.

So then this is different from what you said Wilder did HOW?!?!

[OnlytheTruth]

So then this is different from what you said Wilder did HOW?!?!

Man, you are relentless. I think you need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture rather than just focusing on Wilder v Joshua in EVERY aspect.

Wilder has 43 fights. He is NOT a Unified Champion. FACT
Joshua has 24 fights. He is the only current Unified Champion. FACT

Even by your admission, Joshua has a better relative resume. Most likely, the best resume in the division. Be that by using money or future contractual options, Joshua still had to beat them, and beat them he did. Likely Wilder would have beaten some, if not all (Molina, Breazeale and Gavern are the only known comparators).

If Joshua hadn't of won the IBF when he did and waited until his 33rd fight then you might have an argument to say otherwise. But, in reality, he did win the IBF and he's had the popularity, the platform and the financial backing to do what he has, in 24 fights. Its unprecedented. If Wilder had the same, maybe he would have done better. We will never know.

Considering that Wilder v Breazeale was not a PPV shows the draw that Wilder once was. Beating Ortiz again was pointless. Yes, it was a highlight KO but he could have fought so many other Heavyweights and increased his draw and reduced the scepticism around his cherry picking of opponents.

Fury, on his comeback, was just a name to promote Wilder as a Champion. It would have been a good scalp but considering the circumstances of Fury's return (2 cherry picked bums, nearly 3 years off, drugs, alcohol & weight problems) makes Wilders inability to dispatch Fury a serious issue with Wilder's credibility as a champion.

Fury, now seemingly very popular has capitalised on this and made some serious cash but has done what Wilder has done for years before; fought lowly ranked (if ranked at all) contenders.

Joshua has a Loss. Beaten soundly.FACT
Wilder has a Draw. Beaten soundly.CONJECTURE

Joshua lost on his US Debut to a former title contender, now former Unified Heavyweight Champion. Then immediately re-matched, won WIDE and became a two time unified champion.FACT

Joshua offered Ortiz the US Debut fight but it was Ortiz's team that refused because of the money - something that Ortiz then later said was a mistake. FACT

Joshua said he would fight for $50m.CONJECTURE
Wilder refused $100m from DAZN.FACT

Its all swings and roundabouts but you turn facts into fiction just because your opinion thinks differently.

It might be time to get over it because I bet Joshua and Wilder both sleep soundly at night on a bed of money.

[P4Pdunny]

hope we don't get another year of both sides pretending they want the fight when they don't or trying to "build" it up some more.

[solid_jab1987]

I love it when people say things but have ABSOLUTELY NO BACKING.......

AJ has one fight in which there was a CHAMPION with a belt around his waist across the ring from him.

That was his fight with Parker who WILDER CALLED OUT TO UNIFY FIRST.....

AJ offered more Money and got the fight.....

That’s business but you are making it seem like he is beating all these CHAMPIONS when HE IS NOT.....

AT ALL....

He actually has only been Champ ONE MONTH AFTER GETTING BEATDOWN BY A FAT GUY FROM MENUDO

THESE ARE FACTS....

If not PROVE ME WRONG!!!

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHYT UP!!!!

Charles Martin was a champion with a belt around his waist across the ring from him. At the time, so early in Joshua's career it was viewed as a risky fight. Martin has since gone on to have a good, 12 round competitive crack against Kownacki too, who a lot of people have in the top 10 at Heavyweight. Joshua was just too good for him so Martin has since been seen as a joke.
Parker beating Ruiz in a close, competitive fight definately plays to Joshua's favour for beating him in a Unification no matter how you look at it...

[Monzon99]

Joshua is putting heavy media pressure on the big alabama fraud coward. These interviews are cornering wilder to shut up and dare to be great. If Wilder ducks AJ again in 2020 he will have proven himself to be a fraud duck coward pretender, rigged by haymon and finkel.

[Bob]

Reason no. 1 Money! when Wilder was setting up unifications. Hearn & Dazn blew Wilders team out of the water with bigger offers. Parker was even supposed to stand up in the crowd & challenge Wilder after a fight.
2. Since then Aj held all the belts hostage. Fighting 2 bums a year.
Hexsaid himself in 18 on sky he won't be rushed into a Wilder fight. When asked when he said 19 20 21.Then Hearn said 2020 Wilder Aj.
So in conclusion. 1.money 2. Marinating the fight. & 3 before all that. Its obvious Wilder didn't want any of that Klitschko smoke.

[Bob]

Another FACT. Aj wasnt in the dazn contract. How could he be?Aj has a fight by fight.
Wilder also accepted a 15 mill flat fee but they ran off again. FACT.
Wilder putting up 50 mill for Aj wasn't conjecture. It was proven by multiple sources. FACT.

FINAL FACT. in 18 Aj on sky said he won't be rushed into a Wilder fight. When asked when he said on tv 19 20 21. Hearn then said Wilder Aj 2020. Alk on tv in 18 b4 making Wilder bs offer with no intention of making the fight. Whilst behind the scene's setting up old man pov.
Big picture. It's called marrinating the fight to make more money. FACT!!
Happy new year

[The Big Dunn]

Joshua is putting heavy media pressure on the big alabama fraud coward. These interviews are cornering wilder to shut up and dare to be great. If Wilder ducks AJ again in 2020 he will have proven himself to be a fraud duck coward pretender, rigged by haymon and finkel.

Everyone except this inbred knows AJ has fights with pulev and then the wbo mando lined up for 2020. He has no intention of fighting wilder.

Meanwhile wilder and fury, the top 2 hwts, are fighting each other.

Outside of England AJ is a fraud.

[juggernaut666]

And Ruiz was a cherry pick gone wrong and if Ortiz sucks so bad then why was he a GOOD pick when AJ chose him before deciding to get FLATTENED by Ruiz

Actually Fury was the cherry pick gone wrong because that was the actual fight chosen by team Wilder ,foolishly. Lol