Comments Thread For: Joshua: We Unified in 20 Fights, Wilder Has Not in 40 - Why Not?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Szef
    Face of Boxing
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Feb 2012
    • 15016
    • 2,488
    • 1,555
    • 253,303

    #181
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Leave aside Joshua's KO loss for a minute then. John Skipper admitted he screwed up the negotiations and even apologized for it. They weren't upfront about how much money in total was on the table.

    Wilder did the right thing in waiting.
    what skipper meant is he expected to have a meeting with serious businessmen, not entitled manchildren

    if you're ok with wilder's decision that's cool. but i don't wanna see you or others say joshua avoided wilder & wilder really wanted the fight ever again

    Comment

    • ShoulderRoll
      Join The Great Resist
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 56171
      • 10,136
      • 5,032
      • 763,445

      #182
      Originally posted by Szef
      what skipper meant is he expected to have a meeting with serious businessmen, not entitled manchildren
      Is that why he apologized to Wilder? That makes no sense.

      The Joshua side is conceding that they will have to do an equal purse split now.

      Comment

      • The Big Dunn
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Sep 2009
        • 69735
        • 9,756
        • 8,077
        • 287,568

        #183
        Originally posted by Szef
        of course we are making a big deal out of it because other than fury no boxer run his mouth and contradicts himself as much as wilder

        if he made as much or more than he would have had he taken this deal than his decision would be somehow justified. but he hasn't

        the man is a clown in the eyes of boxing fans around the world
        So wilder should take the money and put himself in the position to have to fight on the road, on AJ’s network, with Hearn picking the judges and ref, giving himself almost no chance to get a fair shake.

        That is ****** szef and you know it.

        You guys all want wilder to do like cotto and let the promoter butt **** him just because he paid him a lot of money.

        Wilder would rather fight on as even terms as possible, giving himself the best chance to win.

        Besides, just last week Hearn said something about now it being a 50/50 fight.

        AJ can fight his European bums with every advantage but when he fights wilder it won’t be that way.

        Comment

        • Fire4231
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Jan 2011
          • 2562
          • 98
          • 75
          • 58,107

          #184
          Originally posted by Szef
          whatever his motives were, he turned down 100 million after screaming for months that all he cares about is getting the fight made

          he's the sole reason this fight didn't happen. not hearn , not aj - him. finkel and haymon made him look like a damn fool
          Bro...Your comment is that of the uniformed or biased variety.

          AJ was offered a very collaborative 50 million plus the PPV upside on very fair terms. They even said the fight could happen in the U.K. He would have made well over a 100 million.

          Wilder was offered a flat 100 million in dictator like fashion. No PPV upside and that was a two fight deal (50 million a fight) on Dazn with Hearns judges, referees, conditions and locations.

          But why y’all bringing up the past. If AJ could have kept winning the fight would be bigger than ever. Who is responsible for AJ’s loss? Can you recognize AJ was knocked out just two fights back?

          Comment

          • Combat Talk Radio
            Banned
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • May 2015
            • 21727
            • 2,781
            • 6,368
            • 83,247

            #185
            Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
            Wow please don’t utter that name again!

            One of the worst refs, didn’t allow Parker to fight on the inside at all!

            Team Wilder would have to do their due diligence on the ref being chosen with the history of refs in AJ fights either stopping the fight when a guy isn’t even hurt, breaking the action too quick, allowing him to call his own timeout, get in between them whenever the opponent gets close to Joshua and even stall!

            Comment

            • Toffee
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Oct 2018
              • 7285
              • 2,517
              • 74
              • 62,824

              #186
              Originally posted by SinderellaMan
              Well the A-Side got KO'd by a teletubby and fought the rematch scared as hell aka Strategical to his little cuckholds.
              Wilder will kill Joshua.
              End of discussion
              Mate, you don't even have the intelligence to contribute to the discussion, never mind end it.

              My point still stands.

              Comment

              • Squ□redCircle34
                Undisputed Champion
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Dec 2015
                • 9091
                • 286
                • 445
                • 100,197

                #187
                Originally posted by revelated
                AJ man fan coming to the rescue as usual!

                Play the entire clip and not the edited one where it skips AJ completely stop fighting and calling for a timeout!

                Comment

                • REDEEMER
                  Banned
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 11820
                  • 1,336
                  • 1,008
                  • 153,574

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Fire4231
                  A: Lol... I know you are but what am I. Let’s keep it going drone. Bro I am going to run you around this talk track until you collapse.
                  You don’t take fights if you aren’t granted formal stipulations , the fact is Wilder declined 12.5 million first and then 15 last year ,he didn’t want the fight and said he lost his pen . The 100 million speaks for itself and the constant regurgitated statement of I won’t fight AJ is proof itself ,you just aren’t smart enough to understand he doesn’t want the fight. Ha

                  See these are called real offers not social media ones where meetings aren’t allowed .

                  Ortiz best win was 4 years ago and the guy was coming off a loss ,this supposed to make Ortiz the number 3 heavyweight according to you which again proves ydksab.

                  Stiverne was hidden just like Wilder from Vitali that’s why they fought each other and not him . The rest of those guys started late and were inactive like Whyte ,good deflecting though ,still doesn’t change baby Wilder started in 2008 and had years to fight Vitali but hid years before Wlad knocked him around in sparring in 2014, one thing Finkel knew and that was to make sure Wilder stayed clear of both .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-02-2020, 10:42 PM.

                  Comment

                  • Thraxox
                    Banned
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 9363
                    • 339
                    • 56
                    • 112,604

                    #189
                    Originally posted by NaijaD
                    They pretend like his run before the first Ortiz fight should be overlooked, it was an awful run.
                    Wilder has a chance against anyone and these days looks much more polished than he used to but call a spade a spade, he was coddled and babied as a champion. This was a guy in his 30s with 35 odd fights and fighting complete no hopers and people you’d never heard of. Rarely in this sport does a champion consistently fight the best available but Wilder is possibly the most manufactured and carefully guided champion I’ve ever seen.
                    You've got to admit though, Wilder gets away with it because he has probably the most rabid and deluded fanbase in boxing history. You can argue these Pacquiao and Floyd fans back in the day, but at least their fighters are genuine Top 10-15 ATG's. But these Wilder fans are something else man, like he could actually do no wrong in their eyes.

                    Comment

                    • PACBOY
                      Live4Boxing
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 2745
                      • 1,428
                      • 1,899
                      • 13,903

                      #190
                      this can only mean one thing. They will duck Wilder if he wins

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP