Comments Thread For: Joshua: We Unified in 20 Fights, Wilder Has Not in 40 - Why Not?

[Angeljuice]

No offense but I could fight Klitschko and he would SELLOUT 60K....

He was MONEY in Europe

So why did Deontay not fight him? Presumably you believe Wilder is better than you?

[diarraisagod]

AJ’s Last three opponents...
- Ruiz
- Povetkin
- Parker

DW’s Last three opponents...
- Ortiz
- Fury
- Breazeale

Unless you are a complete casual or shapeshifting lie for hire, it’s easy to see Wilder had the tougher schedule.

Haha I don't even care about the original thread - Joshua hyping a future fight no big deal.

But lol at picking more or less Wilder's 3 best opponents (Stiverne 1 - the only possible exception) out of 42 fights.

- Ortiz, the American boogeyman but not really beaten anybody and about 400 years old and lost his stones when Joshua came calling
- Fury following a two year coke binge and still outboxed him despite hometown decision
- Breazeale who Joshua already beat

You could compare AJ's 22nd, 23rd and 24th fights to Wilder's

Jesse Oltmanns (10-2), Owen Beck (29-10) and Kertson Manswell (23-5) ... Yeah, I've no idea who they are either

Or where Wilder was 6 years in to his pro career ... Malik Scott and Jason Gavern

But they're as meaningless as picking an arbitrary number of fights that fits your narrative

Let's just hope they get it on in 2020

[Angeljuice]

What I don't like is he is fighting a Bulgarian punching bag next, then the WBO mando, while pretending he is thinking about fighting Wilder in 2020. It's gay and you know it.

I'm fine if AJ hides in Europe and fights bums. Just confirms British men are weak minded cuck sissies. Instead of being civil and polite, be quiet. Fight your soft as tissue european opponents and shut the f-ck up.

Sell the Pulev fight by talking about Pulev. Of course no one knows who he is or gives a f-ck about the fight so all AJ can do is suck on Wilder's dong and beg for attention.

Nobody IN AMERICA had heard of Deontay Wilder for the first years he was champion.
Anthony Joshua was 5x as recognisable to the American public as their own Champion (fact). Wilder only has any public profile because of his association with AJ and Fury.

Boxing has lost the majority of its support base in the US over a couple of decades. Without the UK it would have flatlined.

Suddenly it gets a new wave of fans who have not got a clue about boxing and just brag and talk crap as if they are the ones fighting.

Wilder was on 3mil a fight as Champion because nobody in America gave a toss about him. AJ was earning 5-10 that amount at the time and 80mil for his last fight.

America is no longer the home of heavyweight boxing, you got left behind and have to come to terms with that.
If Wilder retires today, there is nobody from America to take his place. All you would have is Ruiz who calls himself Mexican but is at least in the mix. Other than that, you would be shut out of the division completely.

You're going to have to deal with the fact that you don't call the shots anymore.

[N/A]

So why did Deontay not fight him?

because wladimir lost all of his titles the same year wilder won his.

wilder and wladimir has the same manager and a plan was in place for a full undisputed unification fight in 2016. finkel was just waiting for wladimir's hbo deal to expire.

the only reason the fight didn't happen is because fury upset wladimir.

[N/A]

Wilder Fury 2 will finally decide a newlineage and an active ring belt once again
that is excellent news

why do you still regard the ring belt as credible after oscar de la hoya bought it and his employees publicly confirmed he's been corrupting the ratings?

[thabanga510]

Martin, Parker and Wlad chose to fight Joshua instead that is why Wilder has not unified.

[The Big Dunn]

Nobody IN AMERICA had heard of Deontay Wilder for the first years he was champion.
Anthony Joshua was 5x as recognisable to the American public as their own Champion (fact). Wilder only has any public profile because of his association with AJ and Fury.

Boxing has lost the majority of its support base in the US over a couple of decades. Without the UK it would have flatlined.

Suddenly it gets a new wave of fans who have not got a clue about boxing and just brag and talk crap as if they are the ones fighting.

Wilder was on 3mil a fight as Champion because nobody in America gave a toss about him. AJ was earning 5-10 that amount at the time and 80mil for his last fight.

America is no longer the home of heavyweight boxing, you got left behind and have to come to terms with that.
If Wilder retires today, there is nobody from America to take his place. All you would have is Ruiz who calls himself Mexican but is at least in the mix. Other than that, you would be shut out of the division completely.

You're going to have to deal with the fact that you don't call the shots anymore.

Dude AJ just went 1-1 with an unknown American. America is still the Mecca for boxing.

If AJ wants to be wlad or calzaghe that is fine. He will be treated accordingly.

Just don’t talk about wilder when you’re fighting pulev next.

[Szef]

What I don't like is he is fighting a Bulgarian punching bag next, then the WBO mando, while pretending he is thinking about fighting Wilder in 2020. It's gay and you know it.

I'm fine if AJ hides in Europe and fights bums. Just confirms British men are weak minded cuck sissies. Instead of being civil and polite, be quiet. Fight your soft as tissue european opponents and shut the f-ck up.

Sell the Pulev fight by talking about Pulev. Of course no one knows who he is or gives a f-ck about the fight so all AJ can do is suck on Wilder's dong and beg for attention.

i expect the same energy from you when, in february, wilder will start running his mouth about joshua during the fight week (like he always does) even though it's been confirmed that he will be fighting fury one more time after this rematch.

[The Big Dunn]

i expect the same energy from you when, in february, wilder will start yapping his mouth about joshua during the fight week (like he always does) even though it's been confirmed that he will be fighting fury one more time after this rematch.

Wilder signed for 2 fights because AJ has his 2020 set.
Don’t try and act like wilder made this deal to avoid AJ.

Wilder can’t force AJ to come from under the queen’s dress unless he insults him and forces him into a fight.

AJ is the a side so he can make the fight if he really wanted to.

[Szef]

Wilder signed for 2 fights because AJ has his 2020 set.
Don’t try and act like wilder made this deal to avoid AJ.

Wilder can’t force AJ to come from under the queen’s dress unless he insults him and forces him into a fight.

AJ is the a side so he can make the fight if he really wanted to.

lololol sure he did

oh he doesn't have to force him. all he had to do was sign the most lucrative deal in the history of hw boxing that was offered to him last year