Comments Thread For: Wilder-Fury II: The End To The Lineal Championship Debate

[Roberto Vasquez]

Fury's not pretending anything. He's the man who beat the man. Of course the lineal championship is discussed more when it splinters from the sanctioning body championships.




It's not debatable that he still holds Wladimir's lineage. You can debate if he should still be recognized as "lineal champion," but I personally care about the lineage, not the title.

He claimed the "retirement" was a joke. I personally couldn't care less. Nobody established themselves as the man in his absence, so the retirement debate is irrelevant.

As for the drug test, that might be relevant if it was for the Wladimir fight, but it wasn't. So it has nothing to do with anything.

Fair enough if you care about "Wladimir's lineage". No one else does. He beat a Wlad at the end of his career and a Wlad who wanted a rematch and wasn't given it.

His retirement was a joke? He spent all the time since he came back talking about his mental health problems and suicide attempts. He also served a drugs ban during that time

Fury will get respect from me if he beats Wilder and AJ and if he stops fighting opponents outside the top-20.

[Bad_Guy]

When Wilder KOs Fury, no one will talk about Fury anymore as he fades back into obscurity; Fury is a one hit wonder that caught an aging champ at the right time, and he will tell his kids one day that he was once the "lineal" HW champ.

[N/A]

Fair enough if you care about "Wladimir's lineage". No one else does.

You claim nobody cares, yet for years we've had thread after thread about Fury's lineal claim. So clearly people care.

[Roberto Vasquez]

You claim nobody cares, yet for years we've had thread after thread about Fury's lineal claim. So clearly people care.

They only care about Fury claiming lineal status not about lineal status itself. I'd like to see how many people cared about it before Fury started talking about it.

[N/A]

They only care about Fury claiming lineal status not about lineal status itself. I'd like to see how many people cared about it before Fury started talking about it.

Spinks was paid $13.5 million for the Tyson fight based solely on lineal status itself.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

And you still avoided my question. I'm guessing because it would have shown your fanboy-ism up.

Fanboys can never get their heads round the fact that if 2 decent fighters fight 10 times. It will never be 10-0 to their favourite fighter. This is the real world not some teenage fantasy.

It was a ****** and irrelevant question... as none of these guys will ever fight anywhere near 10 times you utter r-tard...

Wilder-Fury is a 50/50 fight, so it would probably be around 6-4 to Fury or 5-5 based off the first fight.

Both guys are evidently better than AJ and beat him pretty comfortably, I’d say 9-1 or as it’s HW boxing maybe 8-2 to Wilder/Fury.

Talking of “fanboyism”. Price admits Fury WAS NOT ducking him. You still can’t accept it.😂

Both Hearn’s acknowledge the 50m was legitimate. You still can’t accept it.🤣

There’s only one fanboy here and it’s you, you sad little c***.

[Articulateboxin]

As an ex boxer I never liked fighting a power puncher twice because they saw most of my moves the 1st time. I can do a few things different but if they good??? My better speed, experience, and skills wouldn’t matter. High risk-low reward

I always thought that boxer movers and especially counter punchers did better the second time round?

I'm quite conflicted with this fight, there are so many contributing factors that it makes a confident pick a fools game!

What I will say though is that if Wilder comes out and fights Fury the way he fought Ortiz 2 - he loses. I wonder if the Fury camp are hyping a KO because they felt Wilder cut down on volume vs Ortiz, because he was so badly hurt the first fight. Perhaps they're trying have Wilder take on that Ortiz 2 mindset and inadvertently lowering his volume.

Fury switching trainers doesn't really worry me all that much, people forget that Davison was pretty damn fresh out of the box going into that first fight.

Fury's headspace is the largest concern for me as far as picking a winner goes. If the guy who turned up against Wallin, turns up against Wilder - I don;t think he makes it past 5.

[MEXICAN STYLE]

fakeass title lmao

[Marchegiano]

Spinks was paid $13.5 million for the Tyson fight based solely on lineal status itself.

Do you know all the times when Lineal became part of the negotiation in HW title fights during sanctioning body eras?

You'd mentioned another instance not long ago, if you know more I'd like to know about it.

[N/A]

Do you know all the times when Lineal became part of the negotiation in HW title fights during sanctioning body eras?

You'd mentioned another instance not long ago, if you know more I'd like to know about it.

Pretty much any time a lineal champion is beltless, the other champions pay a premium to try to get that lineage.

There's no way Fury would be getting 50/50 against Wilder if Fury wasn't lineal champion.

There's no way Briggs would have been paid so much against Lewis if Briggs wasn't lineal champion.