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  • Cool Scant
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    #41
    Originally posted by Kezzer
    Relevance is surely based upon popularity? Maybe you need to go and have a look to see who the most popular boxers out there are?

    The last time I checked, a heavyweight champion who holds four belts, is #1 on boxrec and regularly clocks over 1 million ppv buys in his home country alone is seen as relevant.
    Relevant concerning man fans... yes. Relevent concerning the topic of WHOS the best heavyweight... nope. Ever since AJ lost to a marshmallow those 4 (really 3) belts are even more devalued. And Box Rec got it wrong. More publications have Wilder as the #1 heavyweight than Joshua.

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    • Vinnykin
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      #42
      Fury beat the man......if he beats Wilder again then he is #1 regardless of the belts Joshua has, as he just got sparked recently.

      If Wilder wins then I will regard him as the lineal, ring and #1 heavyweight in the world.

      It works both ways...... no one is considered #1 until they fight the best and take on all challengers and champions......

      Fury is the ONLY fighter in the division to actively seek out and beat the top guys, in their home countries..... Joshua and Wilder have done nothing in comparison.
      Last edited by Vinnykin; 01-01-2020, 08:00 PM.

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      • 5000boxing
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        #43
        Originally posted by Nomadic
        AJ's fans worst nightmare: Wilder is considered the Lineal Champ!
        Omg.. So many manfan suicides on that day! Lmao!

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        • thereeldeel
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          #44
          Fury is the Lineal champ cause he beat the previous Lineal Champion Klitscko to win the title, he then came back and schooled Wilder who was considered by his American fanboys as the top dog at heavyweight.
          Now Fury will school Wilder once again and more decisively this time.
          Joshua is a bum who got smashed by a fat boy so he's not even in the equation when it comes to being Lineal champion.

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          • FreezeIzGawd
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            #45
            Originally posted by Kezzer
            Relevance is surely based upon popularity? Maybe you need to go and have a look to see who the most popular boxers out there are?

            The last time I checked, a heavyweight champion who holds four belts, is #1 on boxrec and regularly clocks over 1 million ppv buys in his home country alone is seen as relevant.
            So then does that mean that 5 weeks ago you had Ruiz as number 1 and AJ as number 5 behind Ortiz since he didn’t have any titles.....

            Oh and for those saying Fury isn’t the lineal champion....

            Who cares?!?!

            The Ring Magazine title is on the line as well....

            So that means the winner will be an UNDEFEATED WBC, RING AND LINEAL CHAMPION........

            Which makes the winner the NUMBER ONE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION IN THE WORLD

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #46
              Originally posted by Vinnykin
              Fury beat the man......if he beats Wilder again then he is #1 regardless of the belts Joshua has, as he just got sparked recently.

              If Wilder wins then I will regard him as the lineal, ring and #1 heavyweight in the world.

              It works both ways...... no one is considered #1 until they fight the best and take on all challengers and champions......

              Fury is the ONLY fighter in the division to actively seek out and beat the top guys, in their home countries..... Joshua and Wilder have done nothing in comparison.
              Stop the crap. Joshua was number #1, Fury chose to target Wilder instead. Fury turned down a 20+ mil offer to fight Joshua. Wilder is garbage with a punch, to have him top 2 you actually have to believe he didn't lose the Fury fight.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #47
                Joshua has beaten the most top 10 HW's. He holds 3 of the 4 major titles. To claim he isn't top 2 is ridiculous. Fury and Joshua are top 2, i'm not accepting that Fury robbery or Wilder as a title holder, he's a paper champ.

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Nomadic
                  I always considered AJ as a puppet champ. They cherry picked Ruiz and it went bad for them. But don't go telling AJ fans that! They tend to lash out at you.
                  I was just saying why not a LEGAL 16' x 16' ring???

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                    No-one cares or has ever cared about the Lineal champ. It's the sort of thing you boast about when you have no real belts and when you haven't beaten anyone good in 4 years

                    Seriously if Wilder wins it I hope he puts it in the garbage. The Ring belt is worth way more than the Lineal belt.
                    there is no lineal belt

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                    • FreezeIzGawd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Joshua has beaten the most top 10 HW's. He holds 3 of the 4 major titles. To claim he isn't top 2 is ridiculous. Fury and Joshua are top 2, i'm not accepting that Fury robbery or Wilder as a title holder, he's a paper champ.
                      What about the fact he has only been Champion for one Month after getting molly whopped by Eddie Guerrero for 4 whole rounds?!?!

                      That doesn’t count against him at all huh?!?!

                      NO?

                      Didn’t think so

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