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wilder i consider #1
fury #3
Ortiz to me is #2Comment
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Even though Fury was out for a while the top guys didn’t fight each other to establish a new lineage so if any fighter has a claim to it he still does.Comment
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Doesn't matter if you thought Fury won or if I thought he won - he still drew. And it wasn't an unfair result as far as boxing goes. He should have avoided getting knocked down in the 12th round. If your game plan is to box and move and win on points - make sure you don't get put down a second time. Would you now be getting your panties in such a twist if Joshua drew a fight he maybe should have just won? Don't think so.
Uh? Julio Cesar Chavez? What does he have to do with anything. You tell me I don't know about boxing and then bring up JCC. It was common for mexican's to fight a load of unknowns in their early career in the 80s. Not usual for "greatest of all time" US heavyweights. JCC had 115 career fights - no way will Wilder match that
or did you mean Jean Claude Van Damme?Comment
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Go and score the fight then provide an informed opinion. Knockdowns are only relevant to one point. Did you even score the fight?
-If so what was your score?
-If not your opinion on the result is pretty irrelevant.
If AJ was robbed I’d react exactly the same, unlike you I’m a genuine fan as opposed to a fanboy of an individual fighter. I’ve been and watched AJ, Fury and Wilder before they were even champions- I don’t have a horse in the race.
JCC proves that the number of fights don’t matter. It’s the opponents you have beaten that matter. You inevitably missed the point but that was a given as you clearly DKSAB.Comment
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I never waste time scoring fights. Who does that? My opinion (which is apparently irrelevant) at the time was that Fury just won but that he got given a long count by ref in 12th round and also was allowed to continue when many fighters aren't so a draw was also a fair result. The fact is the fight was a draw. Fury should have won the fight clearly if he wanted the win. He said so before the fight.
What are we arguing about again before all this because I am too lazy to go back and look?
Since you watched Fury for so long - you will know he avoided Price, the Wlad rematch and then ran from the Wilder rematch, and advised AJ against the immediate Ruiz rematch. AJ and Wilder are the only true fighters here. I did support Fury first Wilder fight but he lost my support since. He should be fighting *at least* top 20 opponents every fight. But since a lot of people here rank him as no.1 (for no good reason). He should be fighting a lot better than that even. Since you are a boxing fan foremost you must agree with me on this.Comment
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If you didn’t score the fight, how can you have an opinion on who won/lost/draw when it went to a decision?
“Avoided David Price”😂😂😂 that proves you don’t know sh** about boxing.🤣🤣
I’m pretty familiar with David and Franny who was his trainer at the time and I know for a FACT that Frank Maloney received an offer in excess of £100,000 which was rejected as Maloney couldn’t allow Price to fight on Channel 5. Hennessy was also in a vulnerable position so couldn’t afford to risk losing Fury from Channel 5 so was dead against a purse bid, so suggested Fury vacate to pursue world level ambitions which he managed to fulfil and became the best HW in the world and 44th lineal champion.
Price on the other hand, unfortunately, went on to lose twice to Thompson the following year and has never fulfilled his potential.
Price by his own admission accepts the fight didn’t happen due to politics, he’s even done interviews admitting there’s no bitterness towards Fury as he accepts he was simply better than him and “has something he doesn’t”.
Next time educate yourself before you embarrass yourself...Comment
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