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  • spenz
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    #51
    Fury will get stopped in this fight if he goes down again.--He can't afford to go down like he did during their first fight. This post Dadashev era is a little bit quick on the trigger when it comes to stopping the fight.

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    • thereeldeel
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      #52
      Originally posted by spenz
      Fury will get stopped in this fight if he goes down again.--He can't afford to go down like he did during their first fight. This post Dadashev era is a little bit quick on the trigger when it comes to stopping the fight.
      Not true, if anything the ref will give Fury every chance to beat the count knowing what happened last time, not only did he get up but he proceeded to dominate Wilder for the rest of the round.

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      • spenz
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        #53
        Originally posted by thereeldeel
        Not true, if anything the ref will give Fury every chance to beat the count knowing what happened last time, not only did he get up but he proceeded to dominate Wilder for the rest of the round.
        Did you know what happened to Maksim Dadashev and Patrick Day? That changed the way the Refs view and handles the fight right now. Early stoppages are becoming a norm. Fury is not exempted from that cautionary tale. If Fury goes down the way he did in the first fight. The Ref will stop the fight. I will bet all my hoes in that prediction. We'll see in this coming fight.

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        • thereeldeel
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          #54
          Originally posted by spenz
          Did you know what happened to Maksim Dadashev and Patrick Day? That changed the way the Refs view and handles the fight right now. Early stoppages are becoming a norm. Fury is not exempted from that cautionary tale. If Fury goes down the way he did in the first fight. The Ref will stop the fight. I will bet all my hoes in that prediction. We'll see in this coming fight.
          Did you see the Wilder vs Ortiz fight? Ortiz went down like he'd been shot but the ref still gave him every opportunity to beat the count.
          If Fury goes down hard he will also get the benefit of the doubt unless he is completely unconscious.
          And off course if he gets up and wobbles then I agree the fight will be called off.

          Wilder fanboys will no doubt be praying for an early stoppage if a knockdown occurs.
          Last edited by thereeldeel; 01-02-2020, 04:07 AM.

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #55
            Originally posted by FreezeIzGawd
            What about the fact he has only been Champion for one Month after getting molly whopped by Eddie Guerrero for 4 whole rounds?!?!

            That doesn’t count against him at all huh?!?!

            NO?

            Didn’t think so
            That's why i said top 2. He was clear #1 before that. I find it funny that sites like TBRB had Ruiz #1 after beating Joshua, but when Joshua corrects the mistake he's down at #3.

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            • spenz
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              #56
              Originally posted by thereeldeel
              Did you see the Wilder vs Ortiz fight? Ortiz went down like he'd been shot real but the ref still gave him every opportunity to beat the count.
              If Fury goes down hard he will also get the benefit of the doubt unless off course he is completely unconscious.
              And off course if he gets up and wobbles then I agree the fight will be called off.

              Wilder fanboys will no doubt be praying for an early stoppage if a knockdown occurs.
              I could point out every single early stoppages that has happened lately, have you seen the early stoppages that is happening lately? So many of them, this is the trend now, after the death of Patrick Day and Maksim Dadashev, the refs are starting to stop the fight early. And no, I am not a wilder fan nor a fury fan I am a boxing fan. I don't like Wilder or Fury. I like Floyd, Spence, Loma, Inoue those type of fighters. Smaller men.

              Fury will get stopped if he goes down again just like he did in the first fight because the deaths of Maksim Dadashev and Patrick Day is still fresh in everyone's minds. It will be very very hard to find a ref that will not stop the fight early, even Ring Doctors are now stopping the fights early.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #57
                Originally posted by spenz
                I could point out every single early stoppages that has happened lately, have you seen the early stoppages that is happening lately? So many of them, this is the trend now, after the death of Patrick Day and Maksim Dadashev, the refs are starting to stop the fight early. And no, I am not a wilder fan nor a fury fan I am a boxing fan. I don't like Wilder or Fury. I like Floyd, Spence, Loma, Inoue those type of fighters. Smaller men.

                Fury will get stopped if he goes down again just like he did in the first fight because the deaths of Maksim Dadashev and Patrick Day is still fresh in everyone's minds. It will be very very hard to find a ref that will not stop the fight early, even Ring Doctors are now stopping the fights early.
                The difference is "early" stoppages usually happen when a fighter is getting dominated anyway. A fighter winning almost every round deserves the full 10 count if he gets caught by a shot.

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                • spenz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  The difference is "early" stoppages usually happen when a fighter is getting dominated anyway. A fighter winning almost every round deserves the full 10 count if he gets caught by a shot.
                  That's correct. The ref should not stop the fight if the other fighter has a shot on winning let alone winning every round and I personally approved what the ref did in the first fight.

                  But don't count on that happening again because in recent fights, the refs are stopping the fights early because they don't want another Dadashev, Patrick day situation. It would help if they get the same Ref to have a shot in avoiding stoppage. Nobody wants this, it's killing the enjoyment from the sport. I am not saying all refs are now like this, I'm saying the general direction they are taking right now with the recent events is that they prefer to stop the fight way earlier than in the past. If a fighter shows jelly legs, or any signs of degradation, the Refs, Doctors prefer to stop the fight now which sucks from the fun/enjoyment perspective.

                  Fury must avoid getting knockdown at all cost to avoid this situation. I think he can do it because he had his tune up lately. At his best, he should be able to box Wilder for the whole 12 rounds.

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                  • Slimpack
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                    #59
                    Lennox Lewis was the last to hold the line when he retired. He renowned it after defeating Hashim Rahman. The line Tyson Fury claims is an only a two-men line which was preceded by Wlad. Wlad never beat Lennox to claim it. Same situation now. Tyson Fury retired and vacated his belts so a new line starts with AJ.
                    Therefore, the new linear champ is AJ!

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      That's why i said top 2. He was clear #1 before that. I find it funny that sites like TBRB had Ruiz #1 after beating Joshua, but when Joshua corrects the mistake he's down at #3.
                      Been telling y'all they're just as much as joke as any other ranking board.

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