Mayweather wins fighter if the decade yahoo.com

[djtmal]

Boxing basically had no testing, only post fight piss in a cup. So saying Pacquiao never failed a test etc means absolutely nothing. Even playing field = clean. Pacquiao didn't want to do it because he didn't want the fight.

Let's not get carried away here.

The truth is they both walked away over random testing cutoff dates. Neither guy would budge from 24 days, then when Manny finally agreed to a 14 day cutoff, Floyd moved the goal posts to 0 day cutoff.

It's just easier for Floyd Boys to say Manny walked away because he did not want blood testing at all, because it fits the, it's Manny's fault narrative.

[Larry the boss]

That would not have happened to have been when Floyd was on two year vacation was it? When he sat back and watched all those guys beat up on each other then proclaim himself the best guy p4p or TBE as his Floyd Boys like to say? Because he could have threw his hat in there at any time. Or was the excuse that his hands was hurting.

Looks like somebody was putting in some real work to show they were the best, while the other guy was just mouthing off

if you want to use the "MANNY WAS KO'D 3 YEARS EARLIER" excuse then Manny gets no credit for those fights as well right??

[Robbie Barrett]

Let's not get carried away here.

The truth is they both walked away over random testing cutoff dates. Neither guy would budge from 24 days, then when Manny finally agreed to a 14 day cutoff, Floyd moved the goal posts to 0 day cutoff.

It's just easier for Floyd Boys to say Manny walked away because he did not want blood testing at all, because it fits the, it's Manny's fault narrative.

It was Pacquiao that walked away. Random testing is a reasonable request. It is now and was then. Because Pacquiao was so popular peole twisted it to defend him. Mayweather did budge he went form 0 days to 14. Pacquiao said not the week of the fight but when offered 14 days turned it down. Pacquiao ducked.

[mrpain81]

Yahoo sports? Someone find out who Ja Rule thinks is the FOTD.

[djtmal]

again, did pac ever have any history of testing positive for peds??? now if manny has been caught before then i can see where the even playing field comes in.

The truth is Floyd did not like that Manny was imposing a weight penalty, due to how Floyd welched Marquez on the scales. So the random blood testing was Floyds way of evening the score, but Floyd had no proof on Manny so he couldn't make it stick. Manny had as much leverage at the negotiating table as Floyd in 2009. The Mayweathers were real Busch league with that pettyness.

[daggum]

why do people bring up testing as the reason the fight didn't happen? floyd still didn't fight after manny said he would do it. silly to ignore that. he just moved the goalposts over and over. oh he only gets 40 million flat offer no ppv! yeah yeah it was the testing though? then they also ignore that floyd flat out cheated with the iv. usada stood there and watched him cheat. as wilder would say "mind bobbling" and even worse 3 weeks later they gave him an exemption because of a "physical ailment" lmao! if usada was on the up and up they would have stopped him immediately but floyd knew the system and how to beat it. he knew his opponent didn't konw the system as well and they even denied pac a perfectly legal torodal shot while the same people stood there watching floyd get an unapproved IV.

it was all a farce that was setup to favor floyd even more and if you actually watch the fight, i know watching the fight is so old fashioned but manny landed almost all the clean punches. what was floyd even doing? oh wait compubox yeah yeah cept thats wrong. we can watch it. its wrong. clean head snapping punches with leverage over grazing jabs anyway. he knew all he had to do was run out the clock so he did. didnt even deserve to win and this was his legacy fight? a loss. pac started getting to him by the second and he ran out the clock while pac landed the better punches most of the fight. seriously go take a look. besides 1,5 and 11 none of the rounds are clear floyd rounds. it was a masterclass in getting people to believe something was happening when it wasn't. he simply couldn't throw lead punches because pac took them away from him, his distance was all wrong which is why his jab rarely landed, his famous counters were gone because he didn't want to risk pacs own counters. it was a this is a boring fight i guess floyd is winning shrug kind of thing that most people fell for. just watch the punches

[djtmal]

if you want to use the "MANNY WAS KO'D 3 YEARS EARLIER" excuse then Manny gets no credit for those fights as well right??

It's not an excuse that Floyd beat an already ko'd version of Manny. Your boy overmarinted Manny, made a ton of money, but got very little credit for beating him. That's how that works.

Dude, when Floyd was vacationing, Manny was putting in work. When the fights came up he made them happen, he was setting guys up and knocking them down. He fought Marquez, a guy who had his number what, 3 or 4 times Marquez knew this guy thoroughly one of his biggest style challenges. He could have legitly avoided this guy. We couldn't get Floyd to make one fight with the version of Manny who was stopping guys in their tracks, and you boohooing over nobody giving him very little credit for beating a past prime, already ko'd version of Manny? What part of that you don't get?

[Robbie Barrett]

It's not an excuse that Floyd beat an already ko'd version of Manny. Your boy overmarinted Manny, made a ton of money, but got very little credit for beating him. That's how that works.

Dude, when Floyd was vacationing, Manny was putting in work. When the fights came up he made them happen, he was setting guys up and knocking them down. He fought Marquez, a guy who had his number what, 3 or 4 times Marquez knew this guy thoroughly one of his biggest style challenges. He could have legitly avoided this guy. We couldn't get Floyd to make one fight with the version of Manny who was stopping guys in their tracks, and you boohooing over nobody giving him very little credit for beating a past prime, already ko'd version of Manny? What part of that you don't get?

Mayweather does get credit though. You might not give him it but 99% of people do. Mayweather shut out the guy that knocked Pacquiao out, another fight people talk **** about. Mayweather was held to a different standard because he was so damn good. JMM, Pacquiao and Mosley were all top 5 P4P when Mayweather beat them. You can talk **** as much as you like but the facts don't back up your nonsense.

[djtmal]

It was Pacquiao that walked away. Random testing is a reasonable request. It is now and was then. Because Pacquiao was so popular peole twisted it to defend him. Mayweather did budge he went form 0 days to 14. Pacquiao said not the week of the fight but when offered 14 days turned it down. Pacquiao ducked.

Ha. Random blood testing was something the Mayweather camp tried to implement at the last minute, and even then Manny agreed to 24 days cutoff. Floyd wanted 14 and there was a stalemate. When Manny said yes to 14 days, the Mayweathers moved the goal posts to zero. The Mayweathers didn't want the fight you could see it in their body language. Floyd had already backed out of fights with Margarito and Winky Wright this was nothing new for him. When a guy called his bluff, the goal posts were moved. But we know, you need to believe a never caught cheating Manny backed out due to testing.

[Robbie Barrett]

Ha. Random blood testing was something the Mayweather camp tried to implement at the last minute, and even then Manny agreed to 24 days cutoff. Floyd wanted 14 and there was a stalemate. When Manny said yes to 14 days, the Mayweathers moved the goal posts to zero. The Mayweathers didn't want the fight you could see it in their body language. Floyd had already backed out of fights with Margarito and Winky Wright this was nothing new for him. When a guy called his bluff, the goal posts were moved. But we know, you need to believe a never caught cheating Manny backed out due to testing.

Stop lying.

Mayweather made a 50/50 offer.

Pacquiao turned it down and said he didn't want to be tested the week of the fight.

Mayweather offered a 14 day cut off and said at the time there would not be a cut off offered in future.

Pacquiao turned that down.


Pacquiao didn't agree to do testing without a cut off until he got KTFO. After that loss and his decrease in drawing power they were willing to make the fight. They rode the money train and avoided Mayweather because they knew he'd bring it to a stop.