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  • Larry the boss
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    #191
    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
    of course floyd aged.. but this is not about who was older. you're trying to use the excuse that thurman was out for 2 years so the win wasnt impressive.

    so if going by your logic, when floyd beat manny, pac already got ko'd! so which one is worst to you? the guy who was inactive for 2 years but is still fresh or the guy who got knocked out?

    you're trying to discredit pac's win over thurman because thurman was inactive for 2 years but you want us to give floyd full credit for beating pac 5-6 years later who was ko'd? you see your flaws in this?
    No, i really am not trying to discredit manny..but if you discredit floyds win then we have to discredit mannys win over thurman..IMO both deserve full credit...cant say "oh manny was ko'd 3 years earlier" and not give him credit..then ignore the fact he is still p4p top 10 and a world champ in 2019..damn man just give floyd his credit he beat manny while both were #1 and #2 p4p and the top 2 ww's in the world

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      #192
      Originally posted by historian larry
      How did floyd make the fight right away after jmm ko'd manny..Jmm stopped manny in 2012..floyd fought him in 2015


      And if the ko was so damaging why in 2019 4 years after the fight is he still a top p4p boxer and a world champion?
      pac didnt fight again until the end 2013.

      "i will never do business with bob arum"
      "manny needs to fight bradley again"
      "manny needs to sign with TMT"
      "manny needs to leave TR"

      then marquez slept pac --

      and then all the above went out the window! so yes, floyd made the fight right away. what happened to all those demands after pac got slept it didnt matter anymore right? i wonder why?

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        #193
        Originally posted by historian larry
        No, i really am not trying to discredit manny..but if you discredit floyds win then we have to discredit mannys win over thurman..IMO both deserve full credit...cant say "oh manny was ko'd 3 years earlier" and not give him credit..then ignore the fact he is still p4p top 10 and a world champ in 2019..damn man just give floyd his credit he beat manny while both were #1 and #2 p4p and the top 2 ww's in the world
        im not discrediting floyd's win over manny! i just said it's not as impressive as manny's win over thurman! and i explained why.

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          #194
          Originally posted by historian larry
          If Manny was shopworn in 2015..why is he still a top 10 p4p fighter and world champion now? seems like you are the one coming up with excuses to discredit floyd win..you are making no sense
          I don't have to make up an excuse to discredit Floyd because the fact is he did not fight Manny until after he was knocked out cold by Marquez. What excuse do I need. Who in their right mind is going to give him a ton of credit for that but you?

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            #195
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
            pac didnt fight again until the end 2013.

            "i will never do business with bob arum"
            "manny needs to fight bradley again"
            "manny needs to sign with TMT"
            "manny needs to leave TR"

            then marquez slept pac --

            and then all the above went out the window! so yes, floyd made the fight right away. what happened to all those demands after pac got slept it didnt matter anymore right? i wonder why?
            Manny lost to Jmm 12/08/2012

            he had 3 fights after that man and fought floyd
            5-02-15

            how is that right away? hell floyd was in jail in 2012

            both sides had a part of the fight being stalled, both got more money because of it due to fans like us arguing..hell look at us in 2019 almost 2020 still arguing over nothing while they are still counting money from it and planning to maybe get more from us again..

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              #196
              Originally posted by historian larry
              No, i really am not trying to discredit manny..but if you discredit floyds win then we have to discredit mannys win over thurman..IMO both deserve full credit...cant say "oh manny was ko'd 3 years earlier" and not give him credit..then ignore the fact he is still p4p top 10 and a world champ in 2019..damn man just give floyd his credit he beat manny while both were #1 and #2 p4p and the top 2 ww's in the world
              Dude, it didn't take Manny 6 years to make a fight with Thurman. It was none of the Floyd a-side rhetoric or excuses for things not happening. That's just a recent phenomenon that you Floyd Boys accept as the norm. I want a win over the prime Manny who was putting dudes to sleep, not the one who was boxing to safe points wins and being put to sleep. So as to leave no doubt who the better fighter is, not the better businessman at the negotiating table
              Last edited by djtmal; 12-24-2019, 07:34 PM.

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                #197
                Originally posted by djtmal
                I don't have to make up an excuse to discredit Floyd because the fact is he did not fight Manny until after he was knocked out cold by Marquez. What excuse do I need. Who in their right mind is going to give him a ton of credit for that but you?
                So Manny deserves no credit for beating Cotto brutally beaten my margo
                no credit for beating Morales coming off of a loss
                no credit for beating bradley who was badly concussed by ruslan
                no credit for beating Hatton who was ko'd by floyd
                no credit for beating oscar who was ko'd by hopkins


                see what i mean here..how can you discredit that win and not those?? the guy is still a top p4p boxer and world champ in 2019

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                  #198
                  Mayweather haters out in full force.


                  Here's a fact for you. Mayweather was the bigger star but he offered Pacquiao 50/50 for a fight and Pacquiao turned it down over random testing. So the Mayweather ducking narrative is BS.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    Dude, it didn't take Manny 6 years to make a fight with Thurman. It was none of the Floyd a-side rhetoric or excuses for things not happening.
                    the fight didnt happen over drug testing..the same drug testing Manny later demanded himself

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by historian larry
                      Manny lost to Jmm 12/08/2012

                      he had 3 fights after that man and fought floyd
                      5-02-15

                      how is that right away? hell floyd was in jail in 2012

                      both sides had a part of the fight being stalled, both got more money because of it due to fans like us arguing..hell look at us in 2019 almost 2020 still arguing over nothing while they are still counting money from it and planning to maybe get more from us again..
                      jesus!! you really holding on to the term "right away"???

                      pac did not fight again after being ko'd in 2012 until the end of 2013. the point i am making here with the term "right away" is that after the knock out in 2012, all the demands that floyd wanted manny to do went out the window.

                      am i lying about this? all of a sudden, manny didnt need to leave TR anymore, didnt need to fight bradley again, didnt need to sign with TMT. so yes, that's making the fight right away.

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